Are Trump protests finished?

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Re: Are Trump protests finished?

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I think they're a totalitarian thing. ;)
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:29 am Maybe that shows that they haven't moved ALL the way to the left, that there may still be hope.
The left doesn’t exist in America, it’s just right and further right.
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As expected, Trump has been acquitted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56056310
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wheelnut wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:04 pm The left doesn’t exist in America, it’s just right and further right.
You really have to spend some time in the US to realise that the US media paints a very weird picture of what we (UK and most of Europe) consider to be a normal society. They appear to be terrified of even vaguely socialist ideas, conflating them with extreme totalitarian communism.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:18 pm You really have to spend some time in the US to realise that the US media paints a very weird picture of what we (UK and most of Europe) consider to be a normal society. They appear to be terrified of even vaguely socialist ideas, conflating them with extreme totalitarian communism.
It’s bizarre, I don’t know whether it’s a carry over from the McCarthy era or what, but it seems to be deeply embedded in their psyche.
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wheelnut wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:18 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:18 pm You really have to spend some time in the US to realise that the US media paints a very weird picture of what we (UK and most of Europe) consider to be a normal society. They appear to be terrified of even vaguely socialist ideas, conflating them with extreme totalitarian communism.
It’s bizarre, I don’t know whether it’s a carry over from the McCarthy era or what, but it seems to be deeply embedded in their psyche.
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Saga Lout wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:16 pm As expected, Trump has been acquitted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56056310
It was always going to be a vote along party lines.

I had mixed feelings about it, one part of me thinks that it should have been put to bed and move on, make him irrelevant.

Another part of of me thinks that the second impeachment will be his legacy and solidify his place as probably the worst president in US history.
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The impeachment was never going to stick. Nobody really wants their leaders formally punished in this way, it sets too much of a precedent in these times when politics is so polarised. Every other president would end up impeached.

They seem to be using it (try for impeachment and then clear) to admonish but that really doesn't work in trump's case, hes seen it as proof of how corrupt everyone else is.
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Both FAILED impeachments were a total and nasty farce instigated by a bunch of lowlife crooks.
Yet another example of the vile left trying to cancel other people's lives.
It's vile.
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I'm not totally convinced they failed with this.
They showed a fair bit of disgusting behavior of the rioters and a significant amount of republicans nailed their colours to the Trump mast.

I'd say the democrats played this reasonably well considering the options.

We'll see in a few years I guess.
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OBO wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:24 pm Both FAILED impeachments were a total and nasty farce instigated by a bunch of lowlife crooks.
Yet another example of the vile left trying to cancel other people's lives.
It's vile.
They weren't failed impeachments - he was impeached. Twice. A new record. :D

The fact that you think any political party in the US is 'left' is bizarre. And why are you using 'left' like a swearword? It does seem to be the fashion at the moment?
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demographic wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:51 pm I'm not totally convinced they failed with this.
They showed a fair bit of disgusting behavior of the rioters and a significant amount of republicans nailed their colours to the Trump mast.

I'd say the democrats played this reasonably well considering the options.

We'll see in a few years I guess.
I've still got my reservations about going ahead with it, but on balance it was probably the right thing to do.

Trump attempted to totally bypass the constitutional process and appealed directly to mob rule. That's populism at its worst and needed calling out.
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wheelnut wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:20 pm
OBO wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:24 pm Both FAILED impeachments were a total and nasty farce instigated by a bunch of lowlife crooks.
Yet another example of the vile left trying to cancel other people's lives.
It's vile.
They weren't failed impeachments - he was impeached. Twice. A new record. :D

The fact that you think any political party in the US is 'left' is bizarre. And why are you using 'left' like a swearword? It does seem to be the fashion at the moment?
Twice impeached...twice acquitted.

Normal folk would see that as failure....twice.
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wheelnut wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:20 pm
OBO wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:24 pm Both FAILED impeachments were a total and nasty farce instigated by a bunch of lowlife crooks.
Yet another example of the vile left trying to cancel other people's lives.
It's vile.
They weren't failed impeachments - he was impeached. Twice. A new record. :D

The fact that you think any political party in the US is 'left' is bizarre. And why are you using 'left' like a swearword? It does seem to be the fashion at the moment?
As far as I can tell two impeachment processes made it as far as the upper house but neither succeeded, so Trump wasn't impeached. If you count someone starting the process as impeachment then Biden's already been impeached.
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First ever failed show trials.
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Mussels wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:51 pm As far as I can tell two impeachment processes made it as far as the upper house but neither succeeded, so Trump wasn't impeached. If you count someone starting the process as impeachment then Biden's already been impeached.
Without putting too finer point on it, you tell wrong. He’s been impeached twice. The senate acquitted him both times (as expected).

The actual impeachment happened when the house voted to impeach him. The house haven’t voted to impeach Biden.

60 seconds on google will give you the process.

No president has ever been found guilty in an impeachment trial, yet we can all name the ones that have been impeached; it becomes their legacy.
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JackyJoll wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:08 pm First ever failed show trials.
Apart from the trials of the other impeached presidents?
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wheelnut wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:15 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:08 pm First ever failed show trials.
Apart from the trials of the other impeached presidents?
Did some idiot say they were show trials as well?
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JackyJoll wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:34 pm
wheelnut wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:15 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:08 pm First ever failed show trials.
Apart from the trials of the other impeached presidents?
Did some idiot say they were show trials as well?
This idiot did.

They were put on for a show. What would you call them?
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demographic wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:51 pm I'm not totally convinced they failed with this.
They showed a fair bit of disgusting behavior of the rioters and a significant amount of republicans nailed their colours to the Trump mast.

I'd say the democrats played this reasonably well considering the options.

We'll see in a few years I guess.
Showing videos of riots and the disgusting behavior of the rioters is hardly evidence that Trump instigated it though is it. It's simply evidence of rioting and disgusting behaviour.

You would have thought that when impeaching Trump they'd have had some real evidence that he was guilty of the charge but the didn't. I'd say the Democrats failed miserably considering the options. :P