Are Trump protests finished?
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
If it was a show trial the outcome would have already been decided against Trump.
It seems like the outcome is actually gonna be in Trump's favour, so if it's a show trial it's a pretty shoddy one!
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
Maybe that shows that they haven't moved ALL the way to the left, that there may still be hope.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:14 amIf it was a show trial the outcome would have already been decided against Trump.
It seems like the outcome is actually gonna be in Trump's favour, so if it's a show trial it's a pretty shoddy one!
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
They're hardly an exclusively communist thing either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27 ... prov=sfla1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27 ... prov=sfla1
The court was established in 1933 by order of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, in response to his dissatisfaction at the outcome of the Reichstag fire trial, in which all but one of the defendants were acquitted. The court had jurisdiction over a rather broad array of "political offenses", which included crimes like black marketeering, work slowdowns, defeatism, and treason against the Third Reich. These crimes were viewed by the court as Wehrkraftzersetzung ("disintegration of defensive capability") and were accordingly punished severely; the death penalty was meted out in numerous cases.
The court handed down an enormous number of death sentences under Judge-President Roland Freisler, including those that followed the plot to kill Hitler on 20 July 1944. Many of those found guilty by the court were executed in Plötzensee Prison in Berlin. The proceedings of the court were often even less than show trials in that some cases, such as that of Sophie Scholl and her brother Hans Scholl and fellow White Rose activists, trials were concluded in less than an hour without evidence being presented or arguments made by either side
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
OK, not exclusively a communist thing, a socialist thing. How's that?Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:35 am They're hardly an exclusively communist thing either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27 ... prov=sfla1
The court was established in 1933 by order of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, in response to his dissatisfaction at the outcome of the Reichstag fire trial, in which all but one of the defendants were acquitted. The court had jurisdiction over a rather broad array of "political offenses", which included crimes like black marketeering, work slowdowns, defeatism, and treason against the Third Reich. These crimes were viewed by the court as Wehrkraftzersetzung ("disintegration of defensive capability") and were accordingly punished severely; the death penalty was meted out in numerous cases.
The court handed down an enormous number of death sentences under Judge-President Roland Freisler, including those that followed the plot to kill Hitler on 20 July 1944. Many of those found guilty by the court were executed in Plötzensee Prison in Berlin. The proceedings of the court were often even less than show trials in that some cases, such as that of Sophie Scholl and her brother Hans Scholl and fellow White Rose activists, trials were concluded in less than an hour without evidence being presented or arguments made by either side
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
The left doesn’t exist in America, it’s just right and further right.
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You really have to spend some time in the US to realise that the US media paints a very weird picture of what we (UK and most of Europe) consider to be a normal society. They appear to be terrified of even vaguely socialist ideas, conflating them with extreme totalitarian communism.
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It’s bizarre, I don’t know whether it’s a carry over from the McCarthy era or what, but it seems to be deeply embedded in their psyche.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:18 pm You really have to spend some time in the US to realise that the US media paints a very weird picture of what we (UK and most of Europe) consider to be a normal society. They appear to be terrified of even vaguely socialist ideas, conflating them with extreme totalitarian communism.
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
Yeah since the Beatles split and he took up with the veggie bird it all went wrongwheelnut wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:18 amIt’s bizarre, I don’t know whether it’s a carry over from the McCarthy era or what, but it seems to be deeply embedded in their psyche.Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:18 pm You really have to spend some time in the US to realise that the US media paints a very weird picture of what we (UK and most of Europe) consider to be a normal society. They appear to be terrified of even vaguely socialist ideas, conflating them with extreme totalitarian communism.
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
It was always going to be a vote along party lines.Saga Lout wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:16 pm As expected, Trump has been acquitted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56056310
I had mixed feelings about it, one part of me thinks that it should have been put to bed and move on, make him irrelevant.
Another part of of me thinks that the second impeachment will be his legacy and solidify his place as probably the worst president in US history.
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
The impeachment was never going to stick. Nobody really wants their leaders formally punished in this way, it sets too much of a precedent in these times when politics is so polarised. Every other president would end up impeached.
They seem to be using it (try for impeachment and then clear) to admonish but that really doesn't work in trump's case, hes seen it as proof of how corrupt everyone else is.
They seem to be using it (try for impeachment and then clear) to admonish but that really doesn't work in trump's case, hes seen it as proof of how corrupt everyone else is.
Re: Are Trump protests finished?
Both FAILED impeachments were a total and nasty farce instigated by a bunch of lowlife crooks.
Yet another example of the vile left trying to cancel other people's lives.
It's vile.
Yet another example of the vile left trying to cancel other people's lives.
It's vile.
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
I'm not totally convinced they failed with this.
They showed a fair bit of disgusting behavior of the rioters and a significant amount of republicans nailed their colours to the Trump mast.
I'd say the democrats played this reasonably well considering the options.
We'll see in a few years I guess.
They showed a fair bit of disgusting behavior of the rioters and a significant amount of republicans nailed their colours to the Trump mast.
I'd say the democrats played this reasonably well considering the options.
We'll see in a few years I guess.
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They weren't failed impeachments - he was impeached. Twice. A new record.
The fact that you think any political party in the US is 'left' is bizarre. And why are you using 'left' like a swearword? It does seem to be the fashion at the moment?
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
I've still got my reservations about going ahead with it, but on balance it was probably the right thing to do.demographic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:51 pm I'm not totally convinced they failed with this.
They showed a fair bit of disgusting behavior of the rioters and a significant amount of republicans nailed their colours to the Trump mast.
I'd say the democrats played this reasonably well considering the options.
We'll see in a few years I guess.
Trump attempted to totally bypass the constitutional process and appealed directly to mob rule. That's populism at its worst and needed calling out.
Re: Are Trump protests finished?
Twice impeached...twice acquitted.
Normal folk would see that as failure....twice.
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Re: Are Trump protests finished?
As far as I can tell two impeachment processes made it as far as the upper house but neither succeeded, so Trump wasn't impeached. If you count someone starting the process as impeachment then Biden's already been impeached.