Are Trump protests finished?

[weeksy]

It's one thing to see for yourself but to share with the forum is a bit of a first.

You've lost me.

Site admin "outing" multiple aliases (or inning I suppose in my case). Never seen that before on any forum. Previously we all had to guess when BBO or Stig turned up though it's just an observation not a complaint.

In simple terms it depends how stupid/clever they are. If they've got even half a brain about IT stuff then there's no possible way i could ever know. If they're daft, then sure. I have since the day this place started been 100% transparent about what i expect from users and what i'll give in return. I've not made a single decision without running it by the forum in terms of hosting, design, process, funding etc, even if they're largly ignored, I still give the info.

Now, assuming the person i thnk you're referring to is BBO, then i have 100% no issue at all with him, he's posted completely in the spirit of the forum and i'm 100% in favour of that. There's a couple of people i'd class is 'needing improvement' and yeah, you're one of them. The rest though, they can keep on posting happily.

But, be aware, if i do find anyone being a dick with an alias account, both their alias and the usual account will get lifetime bans without discussion.

[Horse]

There's also stuff about postal voting. Postal voting is one of the easiest ways to enable voting fraud. Why do you think Jeff Bezos is against it when it suits him?

Worth noting that Trump was in favour of it when it suited him.

When was that?

When he used the system to cast his own vote.

President Trump cast a vote-by-mail ballot in Florida this week after months of questioning the security of the method of voting, and in doing so he returned it to election officials using a technique many Republicans say should be illegal.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/90388656 ... 2883633886

[OBO]

before Sniffy Biden quickly deleted it...

They moved it to the archives....'cause Trump ain't president any more and hence anything/everything he said is now a matter of historical record and not current policy.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/tr ... lishments/

They do that with all Presidents AFAIK.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/

It’s funny that they (assuming DEADPOOL and OBO are more than one person) don’t thank you for correcting them.

They just come back with more shit.

Now now...don't start that alias shit!
Many years back I was BBO, (Big Bald One).
I am now OBO, (Old Bald One).
Deadpool has NO connection with me, apart from the fact he's ALSO not dumb enough to be taken in by the media and leftie line of "we MUST all hate Trump and ignore the many good things he did or tried to do for America".

That said, I see you've stolen one of my old usernames and bastardised it....how many years have I been living rent free in your head "Jackyjoll"?

[weeksy]

if you boys make me get this out, i won't be the one who's upset

[G.P]

Does this mean Ninja Babe 36DD won't be allowed in ?
I used to really enjoy the comedy Alias characters on VD and TRC, they only provided laughs, not infighting..

[weeksy]

Does this mean Ninja Babe 36DD won't be allowed in ?
I used to really enjoy the comedy Alias characters on VD and TRC, they only provided laughs, not infighting..

That depends how good his tits are

[Mr. Dazzle]

I have no doubt Trump will have done some good things for America. If nothing else a stopped clock is still correct twice a day and all that. I also think its worth remembering that the US is deliberately set up so that no one man has power, thus any triumphs or failings belong to a great many people....and that goes for all Presidents.

I do think however that Trump has done a great many bad things that alternative leaders would not have done. It's also worth remembering that the good and bad things are not mutually exclusive.

I also think for all the claims of "I don't just believe the media" BBO and Deadpool will immediately believe anything that's written on 'alternative' blog without even the merest scepticism. It took me literally 10s to find out what really happened to Trump's achievement list for example.

[DEADPOOL]

Deadpool will immediately believe anything that's written on 'alternative' blog without even the merest scepticism.

You'll have to give me an example if you're going to tell me what I think rather than ask.

ONE will do.

My opinions are my own thank you very much. As I have repeatedly said a thousand times, I don't believe anything the media, mainstream or YouTube tell me I should believe.

I appreciate that leaves me at odds with everyone who meekly accepts the media spin that is presented as "truth" but there are two sides to every story. I note the BBC are presenting the AOC rant as if it was "true" for example.

"WHERE IS SHE!!" Well, not in the Senate building during the riot for a start. Don't hear that on the BBC. Has to be said though, they have managed to be very creative in editing Trumps call to insurrection.

[weeksy]

Bored of it now.

Consider politics as persona non grata for the forseeable future on this forum.

[wheelnut]

My opinions are my own thank you very much. As I have repeatedly said a thousand times, I don't believe anything the media, mainstream or YouTube tell me I should believe.

Which leaves the obvious question of where do you get your information from then? What source would you class as a source you 'trust'?

[Cousin Jack]

Deadpool believes OBO.

OBO believes Deadpool.

Everything else is fake news.

[DEADPOOL]

My opinions are my own thank you very much. As I have repeatedly said a thousand times, I don't believe anything the media, mainstream or YouTube tell me I should believe.

Which leaves the obvious question of where do you get your information from then? What source would you class as a source you 'trust'?

From everywhere. Even if I see it, I still want to know what came before the edit and what happened after. Selective editing is just as much a lie as fake news. If an issue is raised on a platform, I Google it (or DuckDuck for wider results!) to see if/where the factual content is from.

It's not a perfect system but in science topics, if a statement links back eventually to a .org or a published paper, there is at least some merit to the points raised.

After that of course it is merely my opinion you see here, presented as "fact" because it is factually true to say this is my current opinion OR if you look carefully, I might make a proposition and ask questions.

[weeksy]

How do you decide what's factual if 2 articles are opposed?

[DEADPOOL]

How do you decide what's factual if 2 articles are opposed?

They nearly always are, climate change, Brexit, Red/Blue there is very little grey and this recent polarisation of opinion is I think a product of mob mentality and social media. Everything is amplified. Lean a bit one way and you're suddenly in one camp or the other.

What is more disappointing is that if you do not overtly accept the "popular" view, you're on the "other side" and are tarred by whatever heinous crimes have been perpetrated at the extreme. There seems to be no place for discussion under those circumstances.

So if I say I think fossil fuels are the ideal source for plastics and that plastics are one of mankinds greatest inventions, I wouldn't get the chance to explain I think the process needs to be carefully managed or that single use plastics is a disaster without a proper recycling. Might just as well say I club seals to death for a living (and as a hobby).

[Mr. Dazzle]

You say all these things though and then post stuff which flat out isn't true.

For example a few pages back you said the highest proportion of people killed by police are white. Its true that more white people are killed by police in absolute terms, but thats what you'd expect cause there are more white people. In terms of the relative proportions its skewed heavily the other way...here's just one link, I found half a dozen in 30s of Google.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

Or you say that Facebook bunged 300 million to the Democrats to install voting machines in democrat areas, whereas in reality Mark Zuckerberg (i.e. not facebook) donated money to the non partisan Center for Civic Life.

Those are just two examples. IMO you post some of the bare facts but put what I would say is a very selective and biased view on them. Which makes me think either you're getting the interpretation from a blog or whatever, or you're equally biased.

[wheelnut]

Those are just two examples. IMO you post some of the bare facts but put what I would say is a very selective and biased view on them. Which makes me think either you're getting the interpretation from a blog or whatever, or you're equally biased.

We have to remember now that all opinions are equally valid. If I ever have a heart attack I won't bother with a cardiothoracic surgeon - I'll just go on youtube.

[cheb]

You do know that doctors use Youtube as a training resource don't you?

[DEADPOOL]

You say all these things though and then post stuff which flat out isn't true.

For example a few pages back you said the highest proportion of people killed by police are white. Its true that more white people are killed by police in absolute terms, but thats what you'd expect cause there are more white people. In terms of the relative proportions its skewed heavily the other way...here's just one link, I found half a dozen in 30s of Google.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

Or you say that Facebook bunged 300 million to the Democrats to install voting machines in democrat areas, whereas in reality Mark Zuckerberg (i.e. not facebook) donated money to the non partisan Center for Civic Life.

Those are just two examples. IMO you post some of the bare facts but put what I would say is a very selective and biased view on them. Which makes me think either you're getting the interpretation from a blog or whatever, or you're equally biased.

I think you might be right about the shooting rate. Apparently a report which did make those claims has been debunked: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/08 ... draws-fire

So let me get back to you on that. A quick Google suggests there are a multitude of statistics on this issue and I'm not currently in the mood to trawl through them. It's a hot topic though so I will investigate.

As for FaceBook not being Mark Zuckerberg, that's a semantic issue. If you didn't realise that's what I meant, why did you pick his name?

It was $350m plus a further $100m which was used to buy staff sorry I mean hire staff and buy "equipment". Just have to take your word for it that the organisation is bipartisan. I remain skeptical. If on the other hand those staff were nonpartisan, how is it that exclusively Republican observers were denied the opportunity to observe in those few key swing states?

Again it is true to suggest I can't "know" that but I have never heard a convincing explanation for the videos I saw of people being locked out and windows being covered up etc. Guess we'll never know so this is a more a comment about how misinformation, disinformation or even actual events can be manipulated to suit a particular narrative.

[Cousin Jack]

It was $350m plus a further $100m which was used to buy staff sorry I mean hire staff and buy "equipment". Just have to take your word for it that the organisation is bipartisan. I remain skeptical. If on the other hand those staff were nonpartisan, how is it that exclusively Republican observers were denied the opportunity to observe in those few key swing states?

Again it is true to suggest I can't "know" that but I have never heard a convincing explanation for the videos I saw of people being locked out and windows being covered up etc. Guess we'll never know so this is a more a comment about how misinformation, disinformation or even actual events can be manipulated to suit a particular narrative.

I also don't 'know' because I wasn't there, but the report I saw were allegedly about large numbers of Republican supporters observing and harassing tellers at the count. The supporters were excluded, and since they then carried on the harassment through the windows, these were blocked off.

Rather different from a normal process of observers at a count.

[wheelnut]

You do know that doctors use Youtube as a training resource don't you?

Yes, but I doubt they use Bubba from Bumfuck, Idaho as an authorative source.