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Talk to me about heated gloves or heated grips.

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https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... t_cat/1772

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-Xsr90 ... 1438.l2649

Big range here.... I'm thinking of these on payday instead of a set of heated grips...

But i'm kinda torn between the 2 as to which to go for. The concept of heated grips has always been brilliant but the fat feeling you do get has at times put me off them and indeed had me remove them from the bike before now. But i'm thinking and getting the impression the 'sports' version of the Oxfords are better and a bit thinner, so maybe will work OK. There's also the wiring aspect, but with the XSR900 being a tank shroud rather than a full tank, routing the cabling really won't be an issue.

The heated gloves seem to give better coverage, but the downside is i guess, when you're out with them, even if it warms up you've still got the big beefy gloves on for the duration of the day... whereas with grips, you can of course just switch them off.
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https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... rod/101831

SBS made the decision for me. THese are the 'premium' version not the advanced. Advanced gives better waterproof connectors (not really needed for me) and an extra number of heat settings. But SBS have these discounted at the moment to a better price so thought, "sod it, lets give them a whirl".

So they're ordered and on their way to me now.

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I've been looking at heated grips for the KRS, I've had Oxford ones ad the R&G ones before.

The R&G ones got hotter and have a smaller neater controller, but didn't look as premium as the Oxford.

There's a few brands available now with the switches/controller built into the grips themselves (like the official Yam ones), but they're quite spendy.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Koso-Apollo- ... SwDnNgGK-L

I've never had heated gloves.

I imagine they warm the whole hand, not just the palm and if you trade the bike in you get to keep them. Not sure I like the idea of being wired to the bike by them.
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I've just realised my link is for an ATV, it includes a pad to stick to the thumb throttle to keep it warm too!
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:22 am
I imagine they warm the whole hand, not just the palm and if you trade the bike in you get to keep them. Not sure I like the idea of being wired to the bike by them.
Wiring was one issue for sure. One of the main reasons I bought the grips instead actually.

I can buy new XSR grips for £40 should I wish to remove them and fit standard if I were selling
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Have to admit I've never used heated gloves - as I understand it, the heating elements are mostly over the back of your hand??

I find that heated grips work better when you have something to slow down the wind-chill. The large hand-guards on the BMWs make a difference in that regard as they're quite bulky, unlike proper off-road hand-guards.

Obviously muffs are the winner for properly warm hands, but don't worry Weeksy - I'm not expecting that. ;) :D


The alternative is obviously a heated gilet or fleece to keep your core properly warm, but that also depends on how good your blood-flow is to the extremities. The benefit there obviously is that you also are helping your feet maintain some heat as well. (on that note - boxer engined BMWs radiate a surprising amount of heat from the cylinders, right in front of your feet. ;) )
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Don't forget, from my perspective we're not talking 4 hour rides at 0 deg, at a maximum basically we're looking 1 hour at 10deg. If it's much less than 10 i'm not even going out. But last spring doing a few rides with GP and meeting early doors even 10-13deg wasn't the nicest for me on the hands, which as people say, affects your core and makes you chillier all round really. So these should do the job and keep my hands toasty.
The sports version are thinner than the touring ones, so hopefully they'll feel nice.
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I've used Oxford heated grips and BMW ones. Both are good for warming your hands, or as RB say, slowing down the wind chill.

I've also got a pair of Gerbing heated gloves which are very warm. The heating element runs around each finger and over the back of your hand. They're made of leather and are bulky but soon break in/bed down and they're no bulkier than my Spidi H2O gloves. I attach my gloves to my Blaze heated jacket which means I don't have to worry about running cables down each arm - I wouldn't have purchased them otherwise as it's a PITA IMO. The only real problem with connecting them to a non-Gerbing item is that the heat controller on my jacket has no effect on the gloves, as soon as the gloves are plugged in they heat up even if the jacket is switched off. On that note, the Gerbing gloves can scald a bit, particularly across my little finger and knuckle - I don't find it much of an issue, I'd rather my hands were warm.

Not sure I have a preference, both have their pros and cons which Weeksy has alluded to. Commuting everyday, gloves. Occasional rides, grips.
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Gerbing user here, did a fantastic job on the KTM whilst I was winter commuting in all weathers. They can either be plumbed into the bikes electrics or the small battery in the cuff. Heating elements all over the hand, minor niggle was a palm wire occasionally settled in the wrong position and could dig in a bit and the thumbs could do with a bit more heating if it was really cold (sub zero motorway speeds).

I also use them on MTB rides, it was -8 windchill last night for 2hrs20 mins and my hands were toasty warm all that time which made a big difference.
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Rockburner wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:58 am Have to admit I've never used heated gloves - as I understand it, the heating elements are mostly over the back of your hand??

The alternative is obviously a heated gilet or fleece to keep your core properly warm, but that also depends on how good your blood-flow is to the extremities. The benefit there obviously is that you also are helping your feet maintain some heat as well. (on that note - boxer engined BMWs radiate a surprising amount of heat from the cylinders, right in front of your feet. ;) )
Being a fully qualified wimp, at various times, I have used heated liner gloves, grips and waistcoat.

Spin would point out that cold hands us a symptom of your body protecting the core by withdrawing blood supply to the extremities.

So, to make the grips more effective, consider adding either / both an extra windproof outer layer or 'thermals' etc.

If you wear a heated waistcoat, the initial thought is 'wow, that's hot' - then you start to realise how much heat you lose while biking.

[In the heated liners, the element coiled up and down the fingers. Once, being stretched as fingers curled around the grip, two pieces of wire got closer over a knuckle and actually caused a burn!]
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My weapons of choice are a Keis waistcoat and Oxford grips. I'm not Winter riding either,just for those cool Spring/Autumn mornings. I hate bulky gloves,whereas I find the Oxford grips ok for feel.


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Another advantage of heated grips is in the summer when it rains.

I use unlined perforated leather gloves in summer. Waterproof they are not, but if it rains I turn the grips on, hands stay warm, and gloves get damp rather than soggy and soon dry out when the rain stops.

Of course I could buy waterproof summer gloves, but they might get over-warm in the dry.
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I have Reynolds syndrome which is way more common in women than men. It's an over-reaction to the cold and can also be brought on by vibration and stress. It causes the small capillaries in my fingers to close, sometimes just by taking something cold out of the fridge so winter biking has been an issue.

I prefer heated gloves to heated grips as they keep the whole hand and fingers warm and I'm not tempted to hold the grips tighter as I was with heated grips. I like wired in ones as I don't want to be re-charging batteries. They connect directly to the battery and I have the connector pocking out below my seat. Having wires run through your jacket is a bit of a pain, like those mittens on strings we remember from childhood.

When I had a couple of bikes I bought extra connectors, cheap and simple. Once hot grips are on a bike, they're too much of a faff to remove so for multi bikes, gloves are easier.

I have Gerbing. The heating element has a lifetime guarantee. They are four years old and as good as new. They have a secret extra hot setting which you have to unlock - it's in the manual. It's too hot though so don't use it.
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Trinity765 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:06 pm I have Gerbing. The heating element has a lifetime guarantee. They are four years old and as good as new. They have a secret extra hot setting which you have to unlock - it's in the manual. It's too hot though so don't use it.
I've lost the manual so don't get full power. :(
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Beancounter wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:50 pm
Trinity765 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:06 pm I have Gerbing. The heating element has a lifetime guarantee. They are four years old and as good as new. They have a secret extra hot setting which you have to unlock - it's in the manual. It's too hot though so don't use it.
I've lost the manual so don't get full power. :(
Instructions here.

https://gerbing.co.uk/pages/faqs#:~: ... eversible.
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Heated grips are ace. Oxfords have the auto cut off, so wire straight to battery. Some style's allow for more grip chopping and go careful with the glue. Small handgaurds next. 👍
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Dodgy knees wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:34 pm Heated grips are ace. Oxfords have the auto cut off, so wire straight to battery. Some style's allow for more grip chopping and go careful with the glue. Small handgaurds next. 👍
Yeah saw reports in the reviews on both the glue and the length so will dry fit them first to make sure, especially the throttle side.
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Keep the glue well away from cable end of grip. Did mine and next morning throttle sticking. I was a bit concerned about the connectors not being waterproof, but I've stopped worrying about things now. Still working last time I used it, whenever that was.

On the tracer, I often have them on if a little chilly, Don't like cold hands. 👍
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ADVENTURE::
The standard length of the Premium Adventure Heaterz grip is 5.19" (132mm). Should the length need to be shortened, they can be trimmed to a minimum length of 4.80" (122mm) without damaging the heating elements.

SPORTS ;;
The standard length of the Premium Sports Heaterz grip is 4.84" (123mm). Should the length need to be shortened, they can be trimmed to a minimum length of 4.48" (114mm) without damaging the heating elements.


TOURING ::
The standard length of the Premium Touring Heaterz grip is 4.72"" (120mm). Should the length need to be shortened, they can be trimmed to a minimum length of 4.37" (110mm) without damaging the heating elements.
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Trinity765 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:57 pm
Beancounter wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:50 pm
Trinity765 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:06 pm I have Gerbing. The heating element has a lifetime guarantee. They are four years old and as good as new. They have a secret extra hot setting which you have to unlock - it's in the manual. It's too hot though so don't use it.
I've lost the manual so don't get full power. :(
Instructions here.

https://gerbing.co.uk/pages/faqs#:~: ... eversible.
Thanks. :)