Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

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slowsider wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:27 pm
Wreckless Rat wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:13 pm ...and finally. Do you think any country would have gone, “oops our bad, we kind of let that one out...sorry” let alone China, a secretive, authoritarian country who much of the world distrusts enough already. The world would be queuing up for reparations....

If you do think anyone would, until the smoking gun was located in their hand. I have some magic beans forsale. They might look like coffee beans but.... they grow a magic beanstalk, honest.
Course not. Even Porton Down managed to divert suspicion to a couple of steeple-admiring church-loving tourists :)
I think the fact Russia went to the trouble of doing an interview with the very respectful looking “church tourists” answered where that came from, but yeah, had it not have been for that, I would have my doubts. Alas....
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:13 pm ...and finally.
Promise? ;)
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Horse wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:49 pm
Wreckless Rat wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:13 pm ...and finally.
Promise? ;)
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This is promising. Not reviewed yet but seems to suggest the AZ vaccine cuts transmission to an extent and that 1 dose should work fine with a delayed 2nd dose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55910964
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Supermofo wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:35 am This is promising. Not reviewed yet but seems to suggest the AZ vaccine cuts transmission to an extent and that 1 dose should work fine with a delayed 2nd dose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55910964
That is indeed bloody awesome news mate yes.
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anyway... as I was saying.....

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Can you fit ABS to this thread?
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cheb wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:50 am Can you fit ABS to this thread?
It may be popular.
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This is also good news
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55905158

88% of people who've had Covid had anti bodies after 6 months, so between vaccine and previous carriers that should help the numbers this year you'd hope.
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I live in blind hope that people will realise if they're arseholes i will lock the thread. Sometimes it will be a few hours, sometimes it will be a few days. TBH i don't much come into this thread, but someone reported a post, i deleted the post and the quote of it and closed the thread.

I was tempted to throw out a warning, but i'm not sure people care. However, i'll start imposing short term bans :)
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Supermofo wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:35 am This is promising. Not reviewed yet but seems to suggest the AZ vaccine cuts transmission to an extent and that 1 dose should work fine with a delayed 2nd dose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55910964
This is for the AstraZeneca vaccine, will be interesting to see if the other vaccines give similar protection.
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I wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread but figured we don't need another Covid thread


If someone has had Covid in the past year (nearer a year than now), presuming that they wouldn't get it again (big presumption I guess) would they still be a carrier?

I can't work out how they'd carry the virus whilst not 'having' it. But then I've avoided digging too deep into it for now.

I've googled a bit but didn't get much from that. So thought I'd ask the oracles on here :D :D
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Noggin wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 am I wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread but figured we don't need another Covid thread


If someone has had Covid in the past year (nearer a year than now), presuming that they wouldn't get it again (big presumption I guess) would they still be a carrier?

I can't work out how they'd carry the virus whilst not 'having' it. But then I've avoided digging too deep into it for now.

I've googled a bit but didn't get much from that. So thought I'd ask the oracles on here :D :D
Logic suggests that they could be, but only a low-level carrier, ie not very infectious.

If their immune system is stopping the virus infecting them it is almost certainly stopping it multiplying much. It must be a sort of Mexican stand-off between the immune system and the virus. AFAIK most viral diseases ae most infectious when the virus is winning and multiplying fast, usually just before the immune system kicks it into touch.

Of course I might be quite wrong.
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Noggin wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 am I wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread but figured we don't need another Covid thread


If someone has had Covid in the past year (nearer a year than now), presuming that they wouldn't get it again (big presumption I guess) would they still be a carrier?

I can't work out how they'd carry the virus whilst not 'having' it. But then I've avoided digging too deep into it for now.

I've googled a bit but didn't get much from that. So thought I'd ask the oracles on here :D :D
My understanding is we aren't sure. Vaccines are of two types, can't recall the names. One type can stop you carrying the virus at all, the other type just stop you getting really ill from it. The former is rare, the latter most common. But, the latter will massively reduce your viral load, meaning you wont spread it as much or for as long.

I think...
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Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:33 am
Noggin wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 am

I wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread but figured we don't need another Covid thread


If someone has had Covid in the past year (nearer a year than now), presuming that they wouldn't get it again (big presumption I guess) would they still be a carrier?

I can't work out how they'd carry the virus whilst not 'having' it. But then I've avoided digging too deep into it for now.

I've googled a bit but didn't get much from that. So thought I'd ask the oracles on here :D :D
Logic suggests that they could be, but only a low-level carrier, ie not very infectious.

If their immune system is stopping the virus infecting them it is almost certainly stopping it multiplying much. It must be a sort of Mexican stand-off between the immune system and the virus. AFAIK most viral diseases ae most infectious when the virus is winning and multiplying fast, usually just before the immune system kicks it into touch.

Of course I might be quite wrong.
Wreckless Rat wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:33 am My understanding is we aren't sure. Vaccines are of two types, can't recall the names. One type can stop you carrying the virus at all, the other type just stop you getting really ill from it. The former is rare, the latter most common. But, the latter will massively reduce your viral load, meaning you wont spread it as much or for as long.

I think...
Thanx guys. That confirms what I had thought (but couldn't be sure if I was just making it up in my head of if it made sense!!)
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Won't be long before we can go about our business of sniffing the ladies' toilet seats again, eh lads?


Or is that just me? :oops:
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gremlin wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:39 pm Won't be long before we can go about our business of sniffing the ladies' toilet seats again, eh lads?


Or is that just me? :oops:
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Noggin wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 am I wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread but figured we don't need another Covid thread


If someone has had Covid in the past year (nearer a year than now), presuming that they wouldn't get it again (big presumption I guess) would they still be a carrier?

I can't work out how they'd carry the virus whilst not 'having' it. But then I've avoided digging too deep into it for now.

I've googled a bit but didn't get much from that. So thought I'd ask the oracles on here :D :D
Here's a bit of reading that may answer some of your questions. https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss1978/ ... ion10.html
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Bike Breaker wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:55 pm
Noggin wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 am I wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread but figured we don't need another Covid thread


If someone has had Covid in the past year (nearer a year than now), presuming that they wouldn't get it again (big presumption I guess) would they still be a carrier?

I can't work out how they'd carry the virus whilst not 'having' it. But then I've avoided digging too deep into it for now.

I've googled a bit but didn't get much from that. So thought I'd ask the oracles on here :D :D
Here's a bit of reading that may answer some of your questions. https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss1978/ ... ion10.html
Thank you

I've pretty much decided that I should have a second test before going back to the physio. I don't know when he saw the patient that passed it to him or how long he wasn't showing symptoms. So I think I should go down the valley to get retested next week - probably

Will go ask the Doctor tomorrow (need to go anyway for something else) and find out what he thinks :D
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"Liar. You're a liar. Mandem, he's a liar... You're a liar. You lie about the COVID-19 cases. Stop lying to the TV, man."

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That made my afternoon, mandem. From his voice I did expect the protagonist to be more brown that he turned out to be. Maybe he was a bit brown and making the most of it.



And while I have had a lot of respect for Chris Whitty, isn't he telling us to only go out for essential things....? Is going to a street food booth for lunch and hanging about near it essential? He could have made a packed lunch, mandem! :shhh: Maybe it's ok for me to go to the Londis, buy a bottle of bluedrink and and several scratchcards by number, then stand immediately outside the shop drinking the drink and doing the scratchcards, mandem.
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