Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
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Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
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Indian have heavily revised their FTR1200 with changes designed to appeal to corner-carving Europeans. The range sticks with four models (FTR1200, FTR1200S, FTR1200R Carbon and FTR1200 Rally) but each has been tweaked.
The biggest change across the range is a switch to 17in wheels for the FTR1200, S and R, which widens the tyre options considerably. The previous model had a 19in front with an 18in rear, which reduced tyre choices to the OEM Dunlops plus select adventure bike rubber.
With the exception of the Rally, the FTR now comes with Metzeler Sportec Street rubber. Reducing the wheel size has had other knock-on effects too: the head angle is now steeper and the trail reduced, which should make handling snappier, while the seat height has dropped by 36mm, making it easier to jump on for shorter riders.
To match the new front wheel and handling characteristics, the bars have also been narrowed by 40mm and suspension travel reduced by 30mm. So that’s two of MCN’s gripes fixed, what else have Indian looked at?
Well for a start the engine electronics have had a tweak. The throttle has been remapped for a smoother response, the rear cylinder deactivates while idling when it’s hot and there’s a fresh map to improve cold start up. Three more big ticks in the improvement box. The rest of the updates are model specific, so starting from the bottom the standard FTR1200 gets fully adjustable suspension instead of the old non-adjustable units on the current model as well as some funky new paint schemes.
The FTR1200S now comes with the titanium Akrapovic pipe as standard (previously only standard on the more expensive Race Replica) as well as new colours including the much desired 'red frame'.
At the top of the tree now sits the FTR1200R Carbon, which comes with fully adjustable Öhlins forks and shock, as well as flashy carbon panels, a black Akrapovic pipe and a fancy seat cover. In a nice move, the Öhlins suspension will be available separately, say if you prefer the look of the S model.
And how much when they arrive in April? The FTR1200 will be £12,299, the Rally £12,999, the S £13,699 and the R £15,599.
Indian have heavily revised their FTR1200 with changes designed to appeal to corner-carving Europeans. The range sticks with four models (FTR1200, FTR1200S, FTR1200R Carbon and FTR1200 Rally) but each has been tweaked.
The biggest change across the range is a switch to 17in wheels for the FTR1200, S and R, which widens the tyre options considerably. The previous model had a 19in front with an 18in rear, which reduced tyre choices to the OEM Dunlops plus select adventure bike rubber.
With the exception of the Rally, the FTR now comes with Metzeler Sportec Street rubber. Reducing the wheel size has had other knock-on effects too: the head angle is now steeper and the trail reduced, which should make handling snappier, while the seat height has dropped by 36mm, making it easier to jump on for shorter riders.
To match the new front wheel and handling characteristics, the bars have also been narrowed by 40mm and suspension travel reduced by 30mm. So that’s two of MCN’s gripes fixed, what else have Indian looked at?
Well for a start the engine electronics have had a tweak. The throttle has been remapped for a smoother response, the rear cylinder deactivates while idling when it’s hot and there’s a fresh map to improve cold start up. Three more big ticks in the improvement box. The rest of the updates are model specific, so starting from the bottom the standard FTR1200 gets fully adjustable suspension instead of the old non-adjustable units on the current model as well as some funky new paint schemes.
The FTR1200S now comes with the titanium Akrapovic pipe as standard (previously only standard on the more expensive Race Replica) as well as new colours including the much desired 'red frame'.
At the top of the tree now sits the FTR1200R Carbon, which comes with fully adjustable Öhlins forks and shock, as well as flashy carbon panels, a black Akrapovic pipe and a fancy seat cover. In a nice move, the Öhlins suspension will be available separately, say if you prefer the look of the S model.
And how much when they arrive in April? The FTR1200 will be £12,299, the Rally £12,999, the S £13,699 and the R £15,599.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
I actually quite like that...I had no idea Indian made this sort of bike.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Wrong tbh, the bigger wheels gave it a proper look and plenty of tyres were available for road and occasional track use. It's never gonna be a sportsbike so why put 17's on it and ruin the look ? That and the shorter suspension will also reduce ground clearance making the availability of sticky tyres even more pointless.
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I'm a fan... IT's not a bike i plan on buying i admit... but i'm deffo a fan.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Never thought I'd say it but so am I!
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I think it is a great looking bike ... but it was okay as it was ...
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
I've always liked them and they look MILES better in the flesh. Reduced seat height is a bonus cos it was a pretty high seat for chaps like me
Can't remember if its got the 5 yr warranty like the cruisers?
Can't remember if its got the 5 yr warranty like the cruisers?
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Posher electronics is OK if you’re posh.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Overweight and too long for a flat track bike, it's a cruiser pretending to be a flat tracker
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Definitely not a cruiser but it is a naked bike with flat track style, it couldn't be a real flat track bike as like mx bikes they are pure competition things. I do think it looks superb with the proper 18/19" wheels thoughLe_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:28 am Overweight and too long for a flat track bike, it's a cruiser pretending to be a flat tracker
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You've seen the reviews and videos how it wheelies and slides around ? It's a pure hooligan bike. I've no idea why folk think it's a cruiser just because it's made by Indian. It's like saying the new fireblade is just a C90 pretending to be a sportsbike because that's what Honda were known for makingPotter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:49 am I've said this before, I absolutely loved the concept, but the reality is a big heavy beast that is trying to be a V-Rod.
It's a bit different and it's not a HD, so I don't hate it, but it's just not the fire breathing lightweight flat tracker that I was hoping for.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
232kgs wet, normal for a naked bike tbh.Potter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:47 pmMaybe I've missed something new but the one I looked at was something like 230kgs and I think that's dry!Couchy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:39 pm
You've seen the reviews and videos how it wheelies and slides around ? It's a pure hooligan bike. I've no idea why folk think it's a cruiser just because it's made by Indian. It's like saying the new fireblade is just a C90 pretending to be a sportsbike because that's what Honda were known for making
You can slide a JCB around if you really want to but I don't want one of those either.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
That's 1982 GSX1100 weight
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Thankfully that's where the similarity ends.
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
Yeah, the GSX is a lot better looking
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
to youLe_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:08 pmYeah, the GSX is a lot better looking
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
But you always want something that doesn't exist
it's not a 45kg motor... it's impossible it's ever going to be a 1200cc beast with a 45kg motor.
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It's a flat tracker inspired road bike, you wouldn't buy a KTM1290 adventure and complain it wasn't a 300SX would you ?
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Re: Smaller wheels and posher electronics for 2021 Indian FTR1200 range
I don't mind the looks of the Indian,but the weight is a deal breaker for me.
In terms of riding pleasure,manhandling a behemoth has lost it's allure,a degree of lightness is required.
My Z is listed as 221kgs wet,but I've whittled that down to 207kgs. A new ZX10R comes in at 209kgs.
My goal is to be under 200...eventually.
In terms of riding pleasure,manhandling a behemoth has lost it's allure,a degree of lightness is required.
My Z is listed as 221kgs wet,but I've whittled that down to 207kgs. A new ZX10R comes in at 209kgs.
My goal is to be under 200...eventually.
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Oh I dunno
Hot off the press from here https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/mo ... ns-to-rideTriumph Motorcycles wrote:Designed to bring a visceral high with every moment, the new Speed Triple 1200 RS is the lightest and best handling Speed Triple, bar none. It’s 10kg lighter than the previous generation at just 198kg ready to ride, with an all-new lightweight chassis, all-new rider ergonomics and a more dominant and purposeful riding position