Pfizer vaccine approved

[irie]

Just if anyone was interested- no further noticeable side effects after first day. All is well.

Mrs W got her first one before Xmas and was a little bit ropey (headache mainly), she got her second 10 days or so ago and was noticeably worse after that one. Headache, joint pain and just felt pretty shitty. Started about 24 hrs after the second jab and lasted about 60 hours. All good now though. That was the Pfizer flavour.

That's exactly what Mrs irie had for 48 hours after her first jab (AZ) last week.

[Dodgy69]

My wife had first jab before Xmas. 2nd jab now put back to March. First jab gives 50 ish % of something, 2nd 90 ish % of something, potentially.

So, with the 50, does it mean, her chance of catching it is halved or her potential illness will be half as bad as it would of been. ???

Worst case, if she would of died, now she won't. If she would of had minor symptoms, she may now have none. So my thinking is, when you've had a jab, symptoms will still vary between folk.

Is my thinking good or bad.???

[wheelnut]

My wife had first jab before Xmas. 2nd jab now put back to March. First jab gives 50 ish % of something, 2nd 90 ish % of something, potentially.

So, with the 50, does it mean, her chance of catching it is halved or her potential illness will be half as bad as it would of been. ???

Worst case, if she would of died, now she won't. If she would of had minor symptoms, she may now have none. So my thinking is, when you've had a jab, symptoms will still vary between folk.

Is my thinking good or bad.???

I think your reasoning mirrors the government’s. Although the medical consensus seems to be going the other way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55777084

[Wreckless Rat]

Glad I’m getting the Oxford one

[Wossname]

Your thinking is OK, but... AFAICG, the 50% you quote is arrived at by averaging the protection at day 1 over the period to day 21. Obviously at day 1 protection is nearly zero, at day 21 its around 90% >> av 50, which isn't a realistic figure. That's my understanding, from something I read somewhere. No, don't ask.

One of the problems with sticking to the 3 week interval for the booster is that after 3 weeks, when the very vulnerable (80+) are due their 2nd injection, we're still in the middle of vaccinating the vulnerable (70+) for the first time. We don't have double the vaccinating capacity - staff or vaccine - to do this. It'll still be a problem 12 weeks on, but at least then we should be down to the slightly less vulnerable waiting for their first jab.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Is my thinking good or bad.???

Yes.

Which also seems to be the expert opinion.

[Dodgy69]

Thanks gents,

I'll tell her, her chances of dieing are half they would of been, but being dependant on how easily she would of died without the vaccine.

It her birthday today.

[Docca]

The AZ vaccine is flooring more of our staff here. One of our directors is currently in hospital following theirs- probably unrelated, but just collapsed 2 days after.

[Wreckless Rat]

The AZ vaccine is flooring more of our staff here. One of our directors is currently in hospital following theirs- probably unrelated, but just collapsed 2 days after.

Too late - I’m booked. I could have chosen Pfizer but flew the British flag, cheaper for the nhs etc

lol

[Skub]

The AZ vaccine is flooring more of our staff here. One of our directors is currently in hospital following theirs- probably unrelated, but just collapsed 2 days after.

That's a bit of a concern...

[Dodgy69]

I hope nobody has died of covid since having the vaccine.

[Docca]

Of course people are dying since having the vaccine.

Not only is the vaccine ( any) not 100% effective, you have the opportunity to catch c19 whilst building your vaccine response.

Plus, new variants etc. The hope is that we keep distancing and get vaccinated.

[Taipan]

More concerns on the news about the Govt's decision to lengthen the time between jabs, this time raised by the manufacturer. Apparently we're the only country doing this?

[Wreckless Rat]

Denmark approved the delay of the second dose, Germany are considering it, and WHO had said it is ok.

Just shows - even science cant 100% agree on it...

[Taipan]

I certainly get a need to vaccinate more people and especially get to the younger, quicker! But is it okay to leave the second jab so long, or will its efficacy drop right off? I guess no one actually has the data, but for the manufacturer to express concerns is a tad worrying, their profits not withstanding...

[Noggin]

I certainly get a need to vaccinate more people and especially get to the younger, quicker! But is it okay to leave the second jab so long, or will its efficacy drop right off? I guess no one actually has the data, but for the manufacturer to express concerns is a tad worrying, their profits not withstanding...

The bit in bold would make me question their 'concerns'. I get that maybe they are actually concerned but I've become so jaded with politicians and big companies that I am wary about everything they say!!

[Mr. Dazzle]

I hope you're right, but I'd be willing to have a bet (£10 to a charity of choice?) that they don't ever get above 200,000 injections administered per day...

Latest figure 324,000 vaccinations in one day ..I know I don’t accept bets, but feel free to make a donation anyway ..

They passed 400k yesterday...

[Horse]

... for the manufacturer to express concerns is a tad worrying, their profits not withstanding...

The bit in bold would make me question their 'concerns'. I get that maybe they are actually concerned but I've become so jaded with politicians and big companies that I am wary about everything they say!!

How could they make more profit from the same quantity of jabs? [ie 2 jobs given to fewer people, or 1 jab to twice as many]

[Mr. Dazzle]

Especially when the government has already ordered the jabs either way.

[Taipan]

... for the manufacturer to express concerns is a tad worrying, their profits not withstanding...

The bit in bold would make me question their 'concerns'. I get that maybe they are actually concerned but I've become so jaded with politicians and big companies that I am wary about everything they say!!

How could they make more profit from the same quantity of jabs? [ie 2 jobs given to fewer people, or 1 jab to twice as many]

True. I guess its almost a set amount eventually..