Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

[David]

Daft question maybe, but why can't it come in capsule form so can be taken orally?

There's a suppository version on its way to the Canaries. Fair's fair.

Have to be really small for a canary.

[ZRX61]

LA City Mayor Eric Garshitti drops the ball & blames the Feds... 80% of the vaccines in Calizuela have been sitting in freezers since before christmas..

With a slower-than-expected start to the COVID-19 vaccine rollout, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti on Sunday said state and local governments didn’t get crucial resources from the federal level to proceed with vaccinations more efficiently.

“We have not been delivered what was promised at the national level,” Garcetti said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “We are at a pace right now to deliver vaccines in Los Angeles in over five years instead of over half a year at this pace,” he added.

“The federal government can’t tell the local governments and state governments to do something and not give us aid,” the mayor said.

Garcetti has previously publicly pressed for accelerating distribution of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.

The 20 million-dose goal hasn’t been reached in part because local health departments and medical facilities had to stay focused on testing to handle a surge in cases, U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams said. And the holiday season meant health workers were taking time off, he said.
Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the chief science adviser to Operation Warp Speed, the government’s vaccine development and distribution effort, told CBS that 17.5 million doses have been shipped.

About 13 million of those have been distributed to clinics, hospitals and other places where they will be administered, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease expert.

Fauci said he has seen “some little glimmer of hope” after 1.5 million doses were administered in the previous 72 hours, or an average of about 500,000 per day, a marked increase in vaccinations. He said that brings the total to about 4 million.

But he acknowledged the U.S. fell short of its goal of having 20 million doses shipped and distributed by the end of December.

“There have been a couple of glitches. That’s understandable,” Fauci said. “We are not where we want to be, there’s no doubt about that.”

Fauci expressed optimism that the momentum will pick up by mid-January and that ultimately the U.S. will be vaccinating 1 million people a day.

[irie]

With the UK today ramping up vaccinations with the AZ vaccine, in comparative terms the UK looks to be in an increasingly better position to get control of Covid-19.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... st..latest

(iirc) the latest UK data is about 1m vaccinations which is about 1.5 per million population.

Edit: This is partly due to the fact that as a non-EU member the UK in early 2020 was able to independently make large vaccine orders.

[Saga Lout]

With the UK today ramping up vaccinations with the AZ vaccine, in comparative terms the UK looks to be in an increasingly better position to get control of Covid-19.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... st..latest

(iirc) the latest UK data is about 1m vaccinations which is about 1.5 per million population.

Edit: This is partly due to the fact that as a non-EU member the UK in early 2020 was able to independently make large vaccine orders.

The UK population is about 65 million. 1.5 per million = 1.5 x 65 = 97.5 (i.e about 100). What did you really mean?

EDIT: Maybe you meant 1.5%.

[irie]

With the UK today ramping up vaccinations with the AZ vaccine, in comparative terms the UK looks to be in an increasingly better position to get control of Covid-19.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covi ... st..latest

(iirc) the latest UK data is about 1m vaccinations which is about 1.5 per million population.

Edit: This is partly due to the fact that as a non-EU member the UK in early 2020 was able to independently make large vaccine orders.

The UK population is about 65 million. 1.5 per million = 1.5 x 65 = 97.5 (i.e about 100). What did you really mean?

EDIT: Maybe you meant 1.5%.

Yes, I meant 1.5%

[Taipan]

Can any of you NHS folk answer this please. My StepMother is being discharged from hospital tomorrow. Due to a covid outbreak on her ward whilst she was in there, she was swab tested on the 23rd December where it was discovered she had the B117 variant of Covid. As its after 10 days she is deemed clear now. Does she still need the vaccination?

[wheelnut]

Can any of you NHS folk answer this please. My StepMother is being discharged from hospital tomorrow. Due to a covid outbreak on her ward whilst she was in there, she was swab tested on the 23rd December where it was discovered she had the B117 variant of Covid. As its after 10 days she is deemed clear now. Does she still need the vaccination?

Yes, she still needs it.

[Taipan]

Can any of you NHS folk answer this please. My StepMother is being discharged from hospital tomorrow. Due to a covid outbreak on her ward whilst she was in there, she was swab tested on the 23rd December where it was discovered she had the B117 variant of Covid. As its after 10 days she is deemed clear now. Does she still need the vaccination?

Yes, she still needs it.

Thank you.

[Skub]

I've only dipped in and out of this thread,so apologies if this is old news,but possible cause for concern where a new South African strain of the virus may not be fixable with the available vaccines.

Times link.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sout ... -lrjtnhrgt

[gremlin]

Can any of you NHS folk answer this please. My StepMother is being discharged from hospital tomorrow. Due to a covid outbreak on her ward whilst she was in there, she was swab tested on the 23rd December where it was discovered she had the B117 variant of Covid. As its after 10 days she is deemed clear now. Does she still need the vaccination?

Yes, she still needs it.

Just out of curiosity, and not withstanding that that the vaccine should indeed be had, would there not be a good chance that she's fair brimming with antibodies now? I'm not advocating licking door handles on the way out of hospital, but I would have thought that some level of natural resistance would now be likely.

[Mussels]

Can any of you NHS folk answer this please. My StepMother is being discharged from hospital tomorrow. Due to a covid outbreak on her ward whilst she was in there, she was swab tested on the 23rd December where it was discovered she had the B117 variant of Covid. As its after 10 days she is deemed clear now. Does she still need the vaccination?

Yes, she still needs it.

Just out of curiosity, and not withstanding that that the vaccine should indeed be had, would there not be a good chance that she's fair brimming with antibodies now? I'm not advocating licking door handles on the way out of hospital, but I would have thought that some level of natural resistance would now be likely.

I guess the question is should people who have previously tested positive go to the back of the vaacine queue?

[gremlin]

Yes, she still needs it.

Just out of curiosity, and not withstanding that that the vaccine should indeed be had, would there not be a good chance that she's fair brimming with antibodies now? I'm not advocating licking door handles on the way out of hospital, but I would have thought that some level of natural resistance would now be likely.

I guess the question is should people who have previously tested positive go to the back of the vaacine queue?

Logically, if it could be proved beyond doubt that having it guaranteed an auto-immune response, then yes. But then how many stupid people would refuse to get tested on the basis that they may not get the vaccine if it turns out positive?

Ain't no accounting for the stupidity of humans.

[Horse]

Just out of curiosity, and not withstanding that that the vaccine should indeed be had, would there not be a good chance that she's fair brimming with antibodies now? I'm not advocating licking door handles on the way out of hospital, but I would have thought that some level of natural resistance would now be likely.

Foal had it relatively mildly, just ill for a few days (in March).

In July he attended a session in Oxford. They said he had antibodies, but not enough to be worth harvesting for research.

So two options? Quantity of antibodies varies according to severity, or quantity reduces over time? Let alone whether it gives any resistance.

[Taipan]

Can any of you NHS folk answer this please. My StepMother is being discharged from hospital tomorrow. Due to a covid outbreak on her ward whilst she was in there, she was swab tested on the 23rd December where it was discovered she had the B117 variant of Covid. As its after 10 days she is deemed clear now. Does she still need the vaccination?

Yes, she still needs it.

Just out of curiosity, and not withstanding that that the vaccine should indeed be had, would there not be a good chance that she's fair brimming with antibodies now? I'm not advocating licking door handles on the way out of hospital, but I would have thought that some level of natural resistance would now be likely.

I finally got to speak to a Staff Nurse who confirmed she most definitely needs the vaccination and she was quite emphatic about it too! So I guess any of the other strains could hit her in a different way?

[Taipan]

Thinking about it, my StepMother is housebound, due to advancing dementia and general frailness etc, and she won't be alone in being housebound. So, for people like her, will there be house calls for vaccinations?

[Skub]

Thinking about it, my StepMother is housebound, due to advancing dementia and general frailness etc, and she won't be alone in being housebound. So, for people like her, will there be house calls for vaccinations?

District nurse,I'd say.

[irie]

The NHS frontline is working 24/7 to save lives under incredibly stressful conditions, then you see this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... -vaccines/

Public Health England has decided not to work on Sundays to deliver Covid-19 vaccines to NHS hospitals, according to leaked documents, amid growing questions over the urgency of the UK roll-out.

Guidance issued to NHS Trusts warns that PHE will not deliver vaccines on Sundays or after agreed "cut-off points" every lunchtime, even if supplies are running low.

The above is predicated upon being able to forecast 'demand' within narrow confidence limits, but this is self evidently impossible in the national emergency we now have. PHE should be working 24/7 as its 'customers' are now doing FFS.

No doubt PHE will be forced to change its procedures, but hopefully this will be the final nail in the coffin of this dysfunctional organisation with 5,500 "full time equivalent" employees.

[Saga Lout]

(Maybe it does belong in the Jokes thread but it's just as relevant here. )

[Wreckless Rat]

and it would only take around 3,300kg to give everyone a 50mg hit.

[Gedge]

and it would only take around 3,300kg to give everyone a 50mg hit.

Wouldn’t it need years of research and trials ? After all, the anti Vaxxers will want to know for definite exactly what is in their Coke ...