Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

[Mr. Dazzle]

Only until they'd eradicated it...then their market would dry up

That's not an entirely facetious statement either.

[Noggin]

some common colds are, but why would anyone invest billions in curing a common cold...

Because there would be even more billions in selling it. Just look at all the cold "remedies" in your local Boots. Anybody who could produce one that worked would make billions.

But the pharma companies already make billions from the remedies!! That's probably why there isn't a cure!

[Wreckless Rat]

Flu isn’t a coronavirus,

Sorry, my mistake.

some common colds are, but why would anyone invest billions in curing a common cold...

Because there would be even more billions in selling it. Just look at all the cold "remedies" in your local Boots. Anybody who could produce one that worked would make billions.

But the common cold is thousands of different viruses, not just one. A quick google suggests around 10% of which are coronavirus type... so they would need to develop thousands of vaccines...

[Taipan]

Cinnamon stick??

Yes, don't make the mistake of using a Flake...

LOL I meant, what does that bring to the cure-party, or is it just the flavour!!

Off the top of my head and not googled, honestly

Here are 6 health benefits of cinnamon
It has anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. ...
Contains antioxidants with anti-inflammatory effects. ...
Its prebiotic properties may improve gut health. ...
Reduces blood pressure. ...
Lowers blood sugar and risk of type 2 diabetes. ...
Relieves digestive discomfort.

[Noggin]

Yes, don't make the mistake of using a Flake...

LOL I meant, what does that bring to the cure-party, or is it just the flavour!!

Off the top of my head and not googled, honestly

Here are 6 health benefits of cinnamon
It has anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. ...
Contains antioxidants with anti-inflammatory effects. ...
Its prebiotic properties may improve gut health. ...
Reduces blood pressure. ...
Lowers blood sugar and risk of type 2 diabetes. ...
Relieves digestive discomfort.

ok, ok Perfect to go in the hot toddy! LOL

[irie]

Expected vaccine uptake in many countries looks worrying, especially France!

https://www.ipsos.com/en/global-attitud ... ember-2020

The 15-country survey conducted December 17-20 among 13,500 adults on Ipsos’s Global Advisor online platform finds the highest levels of vaccination intent in China with 80% agreeing they would get a vaccine if it were available.

Among the other countries surveyed, intention to get vaccinated against COVID-19 is:

Fairly high in Brazil (78%), Mexico (77%), the U.K. (77%), Australia (75%), South Korea (75%), and Canada (71%)

Middling in the U.S. (69%); Germany (65%), Italy (62%), Spain (62%), and Japan (60%)

Low in South Africa (53%), Russia (43%), and most of all, France (40%).

[cheb]

Yes, don't make the mistake of using a Flake...

LOL I meant, what does that bring to the cure-party, or is it just the flavour!!

Off the top of my head and not googled, honestly

Here are 6 health benefits of cinnamon
It has anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. ...
Contains antioxidants with anti-inflammatory effects. ...
Its prebiotic properties may improve gut health. ...
Reduces blood pressure. ...
Lowers blood sugar and risk of type 2 diabetes. ...
Relieves digestive discomfort.

It works really well with mint too.








That's Linux Mint.

[ZRX61]

Now that the feds have got the vaccines to the States, it's up to the Governors t get them to the people. Il Douche Nero Newsolini has failed once again & 80% of the vaccines that arrived here over a week ago remain locked away in freezers.

[irie]

For crisake ZR, post in something other than angry mercan argot so that us non-hip simpletons have some idea wtf you're talking about.

[Horse]

For crisake ZR, post in something other than angry mercan argot so that us non-hip simpletons have some idea wtf you're talking about.

Allow me to translate:
"It's Boris' fault"
Or similar, adjusted for the locality.

[Docca]

[irie]

Thanks for posting that, very interesting. This caught my eye ...

The majority of participants ≥65 years old had a dose interval of <6 weeks, which may have contributed to the lower titres observed.

... so efficacy may not in fact be lower in older age groups.

[ZRX61]

For crisake ZR, post in something other than angry mercan argot so that us non-hip simpletons have some idea wtf you're talking about.

Trump got the job done on his (Federal) end, the moron running it at State level in Califailure is a useless, clueless fuck & dropped the ball.

[Gedge]

Disappointed but unsurprised to read this morning that despite being ordered and despite them promising to do so, Astra Zeneca have not got any vaccine e stockpiled and are now hoping to start producing 2 million doses a week by the middle of January ...So much for being ready to go as soon as they were approved ..

[weeksy]

Disappointed but unsurprised to read this morning that despite being ordered and despite them promising to do so, Astra Zeneca have not got any vaccine e stockpiled and are now hoping to start producing 2 million doses a week by the middle of January ...So much for being ready to go as soon as they were approved ..

You'd have thought they'd have all been working over Xmas ?

[Gedge]

Disappointed but unsurprised to read this morning that despite being ordered and despite them promising to do so, Astra Zeneca have not got any vaccine e stockpiled and are now hoping to start producing 2 million doses a week by the middle of January ...So much for being ready to go as soon as they were approved ..

You'd have thought they'd have all been working over Xmas ?

Well yes, but actually the order was to have 30 million doses stockpiled by September! If they had done what was promised they could have had Xmas off ?

Imagine, 30 million doses could have been distributed around the country while awaiting approval and then have been ready to go day one ..

[Mr. Dazzle]

Imagine, 30 million doses could have been distributed around the country while awaiting approval and then have been ready to go day one ..

I don't think it's as simple as that. Isn't the size of the dose, the storage conditions etc all part of the approval? So they need to know that info before they can distribute doses.

[Wreckless Rat]

This all goes to show one thing, if/when something proper deadly comes along, for all its science and tech, the human race is fucked.

[Mr. Dazzle]

This all goes to show one thing, if/when something proper deadly comes along, for all its science and tech, the human race is fucked.

I think part of the problem with Covid is precisely the fact its NOT that deadly. It makes it a lot easier to ignore doesn't it?

[Gedge]

Imagine, 30 million doses could have been distributed around the country while awaiting approval and then have been ready to go day one ..

I don't think it's as simple as that. Isn't the size of the dose, the storage conditions etc all part of the approval? So they need to know that info before they can distribute doses.

storage is part of the approval but they already knew what conditions they needed to be kept in ..Distribution in advance might not have been such a simple proposition as batches needed individual checking but I doubt that was insurmountable..once again I find the lack of motivation to get the vaccine out there alarmingly slack. On the one hand we are days away from the zombie apocalypse, but on the other we need to make sure all the paperwork is ready before we start fighting back ..



Matt Hancock, the health secretary, said on Wednesday that only 530,000 doses of the Oxford vaccine would be ready on Monday, despite original plans to have a stockpile of 30 million by the autumn