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Nordboy wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 6:32 pm I have an area to the side of my property which is a little bit shaded and the soil can get very wet and boggy. It's a very much ignored area and is fenced off at the moment, mainly to stop my dogs escaping into the woods or jumping in the stream that runs alongside my garden.

I'm wondering if wild flowers would be able to grow there, it's rather 'weedy' at the moment but I suppose i could plow it a bit and re-seed. There's very little grass growing there, which makes me think that maybe it's not suitable?

I'm certainly not really the gardening type so no idea?

Sorry, I've hijacked the thread a bit. Top stuff Taff, loving the beekeeping. I'll take my question over to the rewilding thread I think.
Very wet and boggy is ideal for willow (iirc), which happens to be a great pollen source in early spring and is brilliant for the bees. 👍
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Taff wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 8:00 pm
Nordboy wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 6:32 pm I have an area to the side of my property which is a little bit shaded and the soil can get very wet and boggy. It's a very much ignored area and is fenced off at the moment, mainly to stop my dogs escaping into the woods or jumping in the stream that runs alongside my garden.

I'm wondering if wild flowers would be able to grow there, it's rather 'weedy' at the moment but I suppose i could plow it a bit and re-seed. There's very little grass growing there, which makes me think that maybe it's not suitable?

I'm certainly not really the gardening type so no idea?

Sorry, I've hijacked the thread a bit. Top stuff Taff, loving the beekeeping. I'll take my question over to the rewilding thread I think.
Very wet and boggy is ideal for willow (iirc), which happens to be a great pollen source in early spring and is brilliant for the bees. 👍
Didn't know that about willow pollen. I don't think I've ever seen catkins on ours though. They get pollarded every March ie last year's growth gets cut off and then they sprout like billy-o...about 1ft of greenery sprouting out of the tops at the moment.

Dunno if it's true or not but when I mentioned their love of boggy ground I was told 'Ah, they don't like it that much but tolerate it pretty well. As nothing much else tolerates it, that's what gets planted or takes root there'.

There's umpteen different varieties apparently.

I will be on willow pollen/catkin watch from now on. :D Maybe we shouldn't do the cutting back every year but they've got a bit tall and I'm trying to keep them manageable.
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We have Middle Eastern miniature honey bees, they’re tiny and make a nest about the size of a small plate, it’s a perfect disk shape about 10” across.

They nest in our hedge and they’re very relaxing to watch and extremely laid back, the gardener trims around them and they don’t seem to even notice him doing it.

I’d rather like keeping a hive in the UK when time and circumstance allows. Honey on toast is very agreeable for a Sunday morning breakfast.
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IccyV2 wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 8:36 am We have Middle Eastern miniature honey bees, they’re tiny and make a nest about the size of a small plate, it’s a perfect disk shape about 10” across.

They nest in our hedge and they’re very relaxing to watch and extremely laid back, the gardener trims around them and they don’t seem to even notice him doing it.

I’d rather like keeping a hive in the UK when time and circumstance allows. Honey on toast is very agreeable for a Sunday morning breakfast.
They sound cool as a cool thing, not aggressive and do their own thing, lovely. Any chance of some pics?

On the UK side, there's quite a lot to learn initially because their lifecycle is totally different, and you won't get away with having a single hive for long because when they die over winter, you'll either need to pray for a passing swarm taking up residence or you'll need to spend another £250 for more bees.

And then there's the workload, April to October is a weekly inspection, extracting honey takes a fair bit of time to prep and then a full 2 days to extract and clean up afterwards, and then several evenings to bottle and label.
Then time to clean up the wax, repair or replace the woodwork, winter feeding, mite treatments etc etc.

But the rewards are worth it in bucketfuls, this scene is instantly calming - well, it is too me anyway 😁
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I can't get a decent picture because of the foliage and I'd have to disturb them, but it's a perfect disk and the bees are probably 7-8mm long, they're just like normal honey bees but smaller.

I'll try and get some pictures next time the gardener trims the leaves back.

There is a proper bee keeping club/federation out here but it's more time than I have spare at the moment.
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what a rollercoaster year 2026 is turning out to be. This is going to be a bit rambly, sorry.

we started off in early and mid spring with the colonies exploding in size, it was absolutely amazing to see the brood nests expand really quickly and loads of honey coming in nice and early.

Next up is the June gap, yes June is my next doors granny, but that's not the gap that we're interested in :sick: .
This is the 2 week gap between the spring flowers finishing and the summer flowers starting. It's very easy to get caught out and that mega strong colony that had 30lb of honey suddenly run out and starve to death.

It's normal for the colonies that are usually placid to get really arsey and make the weekly inspection a real chore and more likely to get a sting or 2. I had 2 colonies that got down to virtually 0 honey but not quite.

The next thing to happen is that the Linden / Lime tree comes into flower - this is normally where most of my honey come from, if it rains in these 3 weeks then I get bugger all, if we have a heatwave then the boxes fill up at a rate that you have to see to believe - and this is where we're at this year and the blackberry is only just getting going :banana-wrench:
I've run out of honey boxes to put on and so the only thing I can do is extract because when the boxes are full the bees will be prompted to swarm.
3 boxes extracted so far and I've nearly filled my 50Kg settling tank, and there's at least another 10 boxes left to extract.

A bumper harvest is good news for my customers because I can keep my price the same as I have for the last 4 years when I had planned to up the price a little to cover the costs of the new equipment that I've bought this year.
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Taff wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 8:54 pm what a rollercoaster year 2026 is turning out to be. This is going to be a bit rambly, sorry.

we started off in early and mid spring with the colonies exploding in size, it was absolutely amazing to see the brood nests expand really quickly and loads of honey coming in nice and early.

Next up is the June gap, yes June is my next doors granny, but that's not the gap that we're interested in :sick: .
This is the 2 week gap between the spring flowers finishing and the summer flowers starting. It's very easy to get caught out and that mega strong colony that had 30lb of honey suddenly run out and starve to death.

It's normal for the colonies that are usually placid to get really arsey and make the weekly inspection a real chore and more likely to get a sting or 2. I had 2 colonies that got down to virtually 0 honey but not quite.

The next thing to happen is that the Linden / Lime tree comes into flower - this is normally where most of my honey come from, if it rains in these 3 weeks then I get bugger all, if we have a heatwave then the boxes fill up at a rate that you have to see to believe - and this is where we're at this year and the blackberry is only just getting going :banana-wrench:
I've run out of honey boxes to put on and so the only thing I can do is extract because when the boxes are full the bees will be prompted to swarm.
3 boxes extracted so far and I've nearly filled my 50Kg settling tank, and there's at least another 10 boxes left to extract.

A bumper harvest is good news for my customers because I can keep my price the same as I have for the last 4 years when I had planned to up the price a little to cover the costs of the new equipment that I've bought this year.
Wish I still lived close enough to come and get some!! We do have a lot of local producers here, need to try and make friends with one as I'd love to see the process :)
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A local came to buy some honey last week and tentatively asked about a custom order as wedding favours for her daughter's wedding guests.
We chatted about the options in jars and labels and she was pretty clear about what she had in mind, we settled on these Italian style jars, gold lids and custom printed labels with a message to the guests, containing 100g of honey.

I'm biased but I think they look brill
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On a side note, there's now a glass tax when buying jars from the wholesaler @£192 per ton. This is as well as the Vat FFS.
£450 I spent on empty jars last week
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