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Supermofo
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My bike has ABS and TC and that's it. I'm happy with both but just as a safety net. Like others have said I rarely trigger TC unless it's in the highest setting as I can't undo years of muscle memory and worrying about highsides etc so I tend to use the power like I don't have it. ABS whilst not perfect, I've triggered it on bumpy roads for example when not even braking that hard, is there for if I totally shit it and grab a fist full. The last full on panic situation I had where I was day dreaming and the car in front had stopped dead, I mashed the brake expecting to have the front tuck, and as it was dry and grippy, the ABS didn't even kick in and I stopped ok.
I think cruise would be nice. I can see leccy suspension being nice too, but I worry about the complexity.
I think cruise would be nice. I can see leccy suspension being nice too, but I worry about the complexity.
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2018 registered Morini Scrambler doesn't even have ABS but does have digital dash, but electronics is cheaper than mechanical innit and more prone to getting completely fucked too 
- MrLongbeard
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Only ABS and CC (and I installed that myself) on the Hardly, no traction control, rider modes or other such sillyness.
S'probbaly why the wife isn't best pleased that I wheel spin out of the driveway kicking gravel up everywhere
S'probbaly why the wife isn't best pleased that I wheel spin out of the driveway kicking gravel up everywhere
- wull
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I think you sum it up perfectly in your initial post, “does it really benefit me”………it’s not a one size fits all. It benefits everyone but do you need it?, No, you don’t.
My opinion with regards to traction control, wheelie control etc is it boils down to how you ride on the road, tyres are extremely good these days that you really do need to push hard for the traction control to kick in but if you do push hard enough especially getting on the gas whilst cranked over then it will come in but it’s so good nowadays that you don’t even know it’s doing its job unless you see the light flashing.
On older bikes it was very intrusive, the Gen 1 Beemers come to mind, you’d know the traction control was kicking in but nowadays it’s seamless.
One of my favourite techs on newer bikes was the blipper. Being able to come down the box rev matching quickly it allowed you to ride even harder.
My opinion with regards to traction control, wheelie control etc is it boils down to how you ride on the road, tyres are extremely good these days that you really do need to push hard for the traction control to kick in but if you do push hard enough especially getting on the gas whilst cranked over then it will come in but it’s so good nowadays that you don’t even know it’s doing its job unless you see the light flashing.
On older bikes it was very intrusive, the Gen 1 Beemers come to mind, you’d know the traction control was kicking in but nowadays it’s seamless.
One of my favourite techs on newer bikes was the blipper. Being able to come down the box rev matching quickly it allowed you to ride even harder.
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On track I absolutely love qs and blipper, tc I treat as an aid in case of buffoonary rather than relying on it every corner. I am a sucker for a tft dash, that said there's something very satisfying riding a 56 year old 2 stroke Lambretta with carbs and no trickery (I have fitted disc brakes).
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Like RB, I think the tech on my oilheads is all I need. I have the older ABS on the GS that works just fine and the servo crap on the RT was binned years ago.
I had to spend a fortune getting the ABS sorted on the K12 as you can't just bin it. My 125 has FI for some daft reason. In India, they have a good old fashioned carb set up. It's no more economical with FI than any other 125 I've owned.
I had to spend a fortune getting the ABS sorted on the K12 as you can't just bin it. My 125 has FI for some daft reason. In India, they have a good old fashioned carb set up. It's no more economical with FI than any other 125 I've owned.
- dern
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I've been searching the ads for an HD Sportster to do up. It's a race between finding one and something else catching my eye.
- Rockburner
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A 1960's Matchless G80 will be a better bike....dern wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 11:03 am I've been searching the ads for an HD Sportster to do up. It's a race between finding one and something else catching my eye.
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I don't fancy anything old and british at all.Rockburner wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 12:11 pmA 1960's Matchless G80 will be a better bike....dern wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 11:03 am I've been searching the ads for an HD Sportster to do up. It's a race between finding one and something else catching my eye.
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Wot? Not even me?dern wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 4:13 pmI don't fancy anything old and british at all.Rockburner wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 12:11 pmA 1960's Matchless G80 will be a better bike....dern wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 11:03 am I've been searching the ads for an HD Sportster to do up. It's a race between finding one and something else catching my eye.
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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Re: Analogue bikes
Bultaco Sherpa - Doesn't have an ignition key or lights.
CG125 - Drum brakes and 6v electrics.
848 - Fuel injection plus some servo thing in the exhaust kinda like EXUP I think. Pretty much the last Ducati before all the electronic shenanigans.
MT09 - TC, x3 engine maps, ABS, fuel injection.
The 848 is the most fun and focused to ride.
CG125 - Drum brakes and 6v electrics.
848 - Fuel injection plus some servo thing in the exhaust kinda like EXUP I think. Pretty much the last Ducati before all the electronic shenanigans.
MT09 - TC, x3 engine maps, ABS, fuel injection.
The 848 is the most fun and focused to ride.
