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cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
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cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
Yes, but normally ones that actually have character. If something feeds the soul a little through its beauty or performance then you can forgive it its little foibles. That goes especially for older cars.

Modern cars, perhaps more so for cars like the Tesla, are often appliances and should just work perfectly.
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wheelnut wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:22 pm The faults with mine have been with the TFT display. Lots of Tesla owners are reporting things like paint issues, panel gaps, panels coming loose, which are pretty basic things. As more customers road test their cars for them though, I’m sure they’ll get better.
Tesla build quality is pretty dire... McLaren still can't build a car that doesn't suffer from windshields cracking just sitting in the garage.. & now they've started using even thinner glass.
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cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
Not at the prices Tesla and McLaren ask. See also Range Rover.
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:05 pm
cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
Nope. Firing that wreck into space finished any interest I had.
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slowsider wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:30 pm
Wreckless Rat wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:05 pm
cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
Nope. Firing that wreck into space finished any interest I had.
You had some to start with....
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slowsider wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:30 pm Nope. Firing that wreck into space finished any interest I had.
They had to launch something on the first flight to get the weight right, even if it was just a concrete cube. On the first ever flight of a design they don't tend to launch commercial, or even free, payloads.

It got them an awful lot of PR didn't it? You may have also noticed during the live coverage (if you watched it) that pretty much the first thing they said was "if you're interested in a career in at SpaceX, go to....".

I would hazard a guess the PR gun wasn't aimed in your direction ;)
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:30 pm
slowsider wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:30 pm Nope. Firing that wreck into space finished any interest I had.
They had to launch something on the first flight to get the weight right, even if it was just a concrete cube. On the first ever flight of a design they don't tend to launch commercial, or even free, payloads.

It got them an awful lot of PR didn't it? You may have also noticed during the live coverage (if you watched it) that pretty much the first thing they said was "if you're interested in a career in at SpaceX, go to....".

I would hazard a guess the PR gun wasn't aimed in your direction ;)
So you're saying it was a commercial payload... :)

I'm not a potential recruitment target, but I'm now much less a potential customer, not that Elon will either know or care :o . I don't subscribe to the 'no such thing as bad publicity' premise.
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So I can throw you plastic rubbish in the sea, or pollute a pristine river, as long as it’s for a bit of PR. Gotcha
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slowsider wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:12 pmI don't subscribe to the 'no such thing as bad publicity' premise.
Gerald Ratner's philosophy.

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Even bland can be a type of character :wave:
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:05 pm
cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
And yes his success mocks your failure.
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Asian Boss wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:31 pm
Wreckless Rat wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:05 pm
cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
And yes his success mocks your failure.
Couldn’t care less about his wealth... you clearly are in awe of it though, bless you.
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Asian Boss wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:31 pm
Wreckless Rat wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:05 pm
cheb wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:52 pm Are car manufacturers allowed to claim 'character'?

No logic to it, but I'd forgive Mclaren for small faults but not Tesla. Probably based on how I perceive Musk, mostly negatively.
I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
And yes his success mocks your failure.

I wasn't aware I reached the giddy heights of failure.
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Sort of related to electric cars. Boxing day was the first day ever when wind power contributed an average of >50% to UK power generation over a 24hr period.

https://www.independent.co.uk/environme ... 79523.html

Now obviously it's a bit blowy out at the moment, but that's fairly rapid progress. UK installed wind generation capacity is set to pretty much double by 2026 based on farms that are already approved or have started construction.

Little way to go before we match the Danes though, they had their first >100% wind powered day (I.e. powering all of Denmark and selling some excess for 24hrs) in 2019.
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And when it’s not blowing :think:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:09 pm Sort of related to electric cars. Boxing day was the first day ever when wind power contributed an average of >50% to UK power generation over a 24hr period.

https://www.independent.co.uk/environme ... 79523.html

Now obviously it's a bit blowy out at the moment, but that's fairly rapid progress. UK installed wind generation capacity is set to pretty much double by 2026 based on farms that are already approved or have started construction.

Little way to go before we match the Danes though, they had their first >100% wind powered day (I.e. powering all of Denmark and selling some excess for 24hrs) in 2019.
On the peninsula I saw acres and acres of solar panels all over the country. But they are (Were) frowned upon for houses .
Over here they're building more and more wind turbines.
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:11 pm And when it’s not blowing :think:
There's a heat pump in the Commons.
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"That solar power, hah, what you going to do in the winter when the days are short, eh, eh?"
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:11 pm And when it’s not blowing :think:
You'd just best hope Boris hasn't written us out of the EU wide energy grid expansion. :D
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:05 pm I thought I was the only one see him as a total cockwomble
He can be quite the funny fucker during interviews.