£15k on a new bike… What you buying…?

[mangocrazy]

Priller RSV4 Tuono.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/r ... no-v4-2021

Wot my learned fiend said.

Setting arbitrary red lines is so last decade. Get yerself some comfortable but bonkers howling V4 goodness into your life.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

200 mile tank range gets rid of almost anything that isn't an adventure bike. where are you going that's 200 miles between petrol pumps?

[Yorick]

I recently put this up as my perfect bike.
Cannot think of anything that comes close, for me

Prefect bike for me?

Potter into town.
Gentle ride with older pals on slower bikes
Take the missus for gentle ride
Crazy ride with the nutters
Massive amount of torque.
Touring holiday with plenty of luggage.
250 mile blat from Cadiz to Portimao
Wazz round Portimao for 3 days on 100% stock settings hitting 175 every lap

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[trophydan]

How about an NT1100, fits all the criteria you mentioned

[Couchy]

In harshness, it feels like the last 5 years before i stopped riding. Chasing 'something' to give that little 'something' to recapture how I felt back in the day, that spark, the edge, the WOW..... Simple answer was... Stop chasing it, it's gone. Move on from the motorbike fixing things

Sorry.

Yeah that, get a nice MX5 and tour in comfort and fun

[mboy]

What about a Stelvio or a V100 Mandello?

Bit of a step down in BHP for you tho'

Not so worried about the bhp, more the torque... However...

V100 Mandello is stunning... Best looking bike of the last few years by a mile IMO. I did look at one a while back, didn't like the typically Italian riding position (Italians are all proportioned like Orang-Utan's, at least according to their bike and car designers, you need tiny little legs and massively long torso and arms, where I'm the other way around)... Also, whilst the S version has the incredible Ohlins semi-active setup (that I also had on a Tuono V4 1100 Factory, that was amazing), it doesn't have electronic preload adjust, which is kinda necessary for me...

The Stelvio looks more my kind of bike to be honest, definitely prefer riding more Adventure type bikes these days even if they don't look as cool, and anecdotally the riding position is a little taller and bars aren't quite such a reach, though haven't yet tried one... No electronic suspension of any kind available on it though, which would be a bind for me and my use case.

I do REALLY wish they'd made it a 1200cc though, not 1042... Even if no more power, just that bit more grunt... Hey ho.

[mboy]

Priller RSV4 Tuono.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/r ... no-v4-2021

Wot my learned fiend said.

Setting arbitrary red lines is so last decade. Get yerself some comfortable but bonkers howling V4 goodness into your life.

Again for those not paying attention...

I...

HAD...

ONE...

And have recommended the same bike to just about anyone and everyone else on here at some point!

They are absolutely effing useless for 2 up... The token pillion seat is barely big enough for a Kriega 20L pack, let alone my GF... I know cos I have actually owned one, and also did a long weekend tour on it (solo) where it was remarkably comfortable, if incredibly impractical...

In a similar vein @Yorick ... I might be 20yrs younger than you, but suspect you're either a lot more flexible or you (and your wife) are prepared to put up with a lot less comfort than I am! I need a bike I can do 1000 miles in a long weekend on, solo or 2up, and in total comfort and with luggage too... In this case anyway...

[mboy]

200 mile tank range gets rid of almost anything that isn't an adventure bike. where are you going that's 200 miles between petrol pumps?

North of Scotland... Nearly learned the hard way too!

Wales after 6pm can be patchy for getting fuel too from bitter experience...

[mboy]

How about an NT1100, fits all the criteria you mentioned

Fits the criteria for the touring bit for certain... And the missus has sat on the back of one and commented how comfortable and "GS like" it felt from the pillion...

Sadly for me, they're as boring as fuck! Everyone I know who's spent any time on one couldn't wait to get rid, and said they'd rather watch paint dry... Even the boring old duffers who love their RT's and GS's I know all say the NT is too boring for them!

[mangocrazy]

Priller RSV4 Tuono.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/r ... no-v4-2021

Wot my learned fiend said.

Setting arbitrary red lines is so last decade. Get yerself some comfortable but bonkers howling V4 goodness into your life.

Again for those not paying attention...

I...

HAD...

ONE...

And have recommended the same bike to just about anyone and everyone else on here at some point!

They are absolutely effing useless for 2 up... The token pillion seat is barely big enough for a Kriega 20L pack, let alone my GF... I know cos I have actually owned one, and also did a long weekend tour on it (solo) where it was remarkably comfortable, if incredibly impractical...

In a similar vein @Yorick ... I might be 20yrs younger than you, but suspect you're either a lot more flexible or you (and your wife) are prepared to put up with a lot less comfort than I am! I need a bike I can do 1000 miles in a long weekend on, solo or 2up, and in total comfort and with luggage too... In this case anyway...

OK, Fair cop.

But to be honest, given that a GS is not an option (and I fully understand and endorse your reasons for this), then the only non-KTM option is a Mutleystrada. And you know this.

[mboy]

In harshness, it feels like the last 5 years before i stopped riding. Chasing 'something' to give that little 'something' to recapture how I felt back in the day, that spark, the edge, the WOW..... Simple answer was... Stop chasing it, it's gone. Move on from the motorbike fixing things

Sorry.

Yeah that, get a nice MX5 and tour in comfort and fun

I've had one of those too...

A very nice one at that... 2L sport, BBR tuned, on coilovers and uprated ARB's so it cornered like it was on rails...

It hardly got used... I prefer being on 2 wheels than 4, and though I was very fond of it, since it has gone I certainly haven't missed it...

[mboy]

OK, Fair cop.

But to be honest, given that a GS is not an option (and I fully understand and endorse your reasons for this), then the only non-KTM option is a Mutleystrada. And you know this.

Which is almost certainly the correct answer...

I just thought I'd ask though... Just in case...

[KungFooBob]

I went to buy a Multistrada 1200 and ended up with the last of the 1200cc LC GS'.

It's used purely as a two up holiday bike, I think I've only ridden it twice without a pillion.

I don't mind the GS. It's not super exciting, but there's enough poke to shift the wife's shoes collection and being a triple black it's got every option.

The No.1 reason I bought it over the Ducati... shaft drive.

I did a two week European tour on a Varadero, lovely comfortable bike with just enough poke, but the almost constant rain killed the chain, I just couldn't keep it lubed enough for the miles I was doing. With the Beemer I don't have to adjust or lube anything.

Also the ESA is it like magic, no matter how many shoes you shove in the panniers the bike stays level, the Varadero turned into a raked out cruiser when loaded up.

[mboy]

@KungFooBob oh the GS's are quick enough... It's the Boxer engine that's so dull and lifeless, but worse than that, the Telelever suspension is totally devoid of feel... And as convenient as BMW's ESA suspension is, anything faster than about 6/10ths and it ties itself in knots in my experience... It's a bike for people who want to look the part but ultimately don't really ride that far, or hard, in my experience...

I couldn't disagree more about shaft drive... 20kg of extra weight and complexity because you can't be bothered to lube your chain every other tank fill...? Modern chain lubes are brilliant, and a centre stand is all you need to facilitate their use... I've done 50k+ miles in the last 5 years on bikes with chains, and they get very little love under my use, but even then (and with a 1300cc V-Twin trying to stretch them ad finitum) they last 20k+ miles between changes (at £140ish for a new chain and sprockets together)... I've known people need entire new shaft drive setups on GS's with less than 40k miles, and BMW wave their hands on warranty... The resultant bills were MANY times what 2 sets of chains and sprockets would have cost me in the same time!

[Supermofo]

Well I know (and want) nothing like those kind of bikes, but the Multi would be my pick, rode with a Pikes Peak V4 last year and it went very well indeed.

You already said you weren't a fan, but I'd definitely not look at the 1200 Trumpet. My brother's mate has just been given a GT Pro 1200 as his works bike and so far the best thing he's said about it is 'Its fine', before spending several messages saying how shit most of it is

[Supermofo]

Non BMW GS idea, K1600GT. Comfy, faster than it looks, my Bro's mate can hustle his surprisingly well all whilst blaring out Radio 2, luggage for days, pillion comfort like few others, a lovely 6 cylinder sound track.

It is as big as a 4 bed house though.

[mboy]

Non BMW GS idea, K1600GT. Comfy, faster than it looks, my Bro's mate can hustle his surprisingly well all whilst blaring out Radio 2, luggage for days, pillion comfort like few others, a lovely 6 cylinder sound track.

It is as big as a 4 bed house though.

A K1600GT appeals... But not yet... I'm 45 and whilst they're eminently more capable than people give them credit for, I do ride a lot of twisty back roads predominantly over cruising A and B roads... But I can see me owning a K1600GT, or its direct competitor a Honda Goldwing, at some point in the future... Besides, there's something soooooo cool about a 6cyl engine in a bike, and the straight six in the K1600 sounds a lot like my BMW M2 did, and the flat 6 in the Goldwing sounds just like an old air cooled Porsche 911 funnily enough!

[mangocrazy]

Non BMW GS idea, K1600GT. Comfy, faster than it looks, my Bro's mate can hustle his surprisingly well all whilst blaring out Radio 2, luggage for days, pillion comfort like few others, a lovely 6 cylinder sound track.

It is as big as a 4 bed house though.

A K1600GT appeals... But not yet... I'm 45 and whilst they're eminently more capable than people give them credit for, I do ride a lot of twisty back roads predominantly over cruising A and B roads... But I can see me owning a K1600GT, or its direct competitor a Honda Goldwing, at some point in the future... Besides, there's something soooooo cool about a 6cyl engine in a bike, and the straight six in the K1600 sounds a lot like my BMW M2 did, and the flat 6 in the Goldwing sounds just like an old air cooled Porsche 911 funnily enough!

Do it while you're still comparatively young, healthy and strong. As you age, pushing and parking (and picking up!) these behemoths gets much harder, much quicker.

[Wossname]

How about an NT1100, fits all the criteria you mentioned

Fits the criteria for the touring bit for certain... And the missus has sat on the back of one and commented how comfortable and "GS like" it felt from the pillion...

Sadly for me, they're as boring as fuck! Everyone I know who's spent any time on one couldn't wait to get rid, and said they'd rather watch paint dry... Even the boring old duffers who love their RT's and GS's I know all say the NT is too boring for them!

Agreed, but how about having a go on a CB1000GT when they arrive (June ish?)? It may not be the most exciting, but should be very capable, and it's well priced at £12K. ...
I'll probably try one, but I can't see it replacing my SDGT.

[Ditchfinder]

Is the s1000xr a possibility?