https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55299779

[Skub]

Well I was looking at it as I'm an IT nerd, so it's a point of interest for me as to how this can happen in the modern world due to redundancy of VM Clusters and IP redundancy through VSS switches etc.

The thoughts of a piece of malware or hacking also interested me as you'd expect Google to be very much on the case in advance too.

But I didn't see it coming down to political agenda or even a Chinese conspiracy.

I don't actually know where you're from or whether you mix in circles where what you posted is actually considered a rational thought process, but as I say, to me and I'm guessing most others on here, it just screams of complete crazy

Jeez man,Yorick's not that bad.

[DEADPOOL]

Well I was looking at it as I'm an IT nerd, so it's a point of interest for me as to how this can happen in the modern world due to redundancy of VM Clusters and IP redundancy through VSS switches etc.

The thoughts of a piece of malware or hacking also interested me as you'd expect Google to be very much on the case in advance too.

But I didn't see it coming down to political agenda or even a Chinese conspiracy.

I don't actually know where you're from or whether you mix in circles where what you posted is actually considered a rational thought process, but as I say, to me and I'm guessing most others on here, it just screams of complete crazy

Maybe I am because while many of these stories were buried/hidden/censored they are slowly being revealed. I won't tick them off but I recall the same level of criticism/madness/nutjob being aimed at me the first time round. Now that same story is on BBC news.

It might easily be a coincidence but Google/YouTube are censoring the president of the USA, then suddenly within a day of a massive cull, their systems fall over. Yes might be a coincidence. The US department websites also being hacked is almost certainly a coincidence but that also happened today. Yesterday a list of CCP operatives was leaked to the press.

There is a lot going on and I am not making it up. Nobody would believe it. Sorry there aren't any motorcycles in it.

[Saga Lout]

Here's a thought, Weeksy. Maybe you could have a forum where the crazies could vent their theories about conspiracies so they wouldn't end up polluting General. Maybe call it something like Current Affairs / Politics / News.

Just an idea.

[weeksy]

Here's a thought, Weeksy. Maybe you could have a forum where the crazies could vent their theories about conspiracies so they wouldn't end up polluting General. Maybe call it something like Current Affairs / Politics / News.

Just an idea.

Maybe you should start a forum and come up with all the bright ideas to save me the hassle? Maybe you could pay the bills, update the software, sort out the DNS, the SSL certificates and find the correct web hosting. Then you can do the backups, schedule the updates out of hours and deal with spammers too?

I don't want to ban people or stuff then in a straight jacket, who knows, they may have a point, maybe not today but maybe tomorrow. As long as people keep it civil I can't just turf people out. You're lucky, you can put them on ignore, heck, you can all do that, they'd soon get the message. Me, I have to monitor it, clean up and fix it all

I could then just go back to buying bikes and posting crap.

I'm honestly not sure what help you thought that was, but there's your answer.

No, I wasn't grumpy, but now I am.

Night night.

[Tricky]

Well I was looking at it as I'm an IT nerd, so it's a point of interest for me as to how this can happen in the modern world due to redundancy of VM Clusters and IP redundancy through VSS switches etc.

The thoughts of a piece of malware or hacking also interested me as you'd expect Google to be very much on the case in advance too.

But I didn't see it coming down to political agenda or even a Chinese conspiracy.

I don't actually know where you're from or whether you mix in circles where what you posted is actually considered a rational thought process, but as I say, to me and I'm guessing most others on here, it just screams of complete crazy

Maybe I am because while many of these stories were buried/hidden/censored they are slowly being revealed. I won't tick them off but I recall the same level of criticism/madness/nutjob being aimed at me the first time round. Now that same story is on BBC news.

It might easily be a coincidence but Google/YouTube are censoring the president of the USA, then suddenly within a day of a massive cull, their systems fall over. Yes might be a coincidence. The US department websites also being hacked is almost certainly a coincidence but that also happened today. Yesterday a list of CCP operatives was leaked to the press.

There is a lot going on and I am not making it up. Nobody would believe it. Sorry there aren't any motorcycles in it.

I'm watching this (the major org outages over the last few days I mean rather than this thread) with interest at the moment- I'm confident there is more to it than just bumping into internal storage quotas, and likely still more to come- whether all the facts emerge is another matter of course
Time will tell I guess...

[weeksy]

Well I was looking at it as I'm an IT nerd, so it's a point of interest for me as to how this can happen in the modern world due to redundancy of VM Clusters and IP redundancy through VSS switches etc.

The thoughts of a piece of malware or hacking also interested me as you'd expect Google to be very much on the case in advance too.

But I didn't see it coming down to political agenda or even a Chinese conspiracy.

I don't actually know where you're from or whether you mix in circles where what you posted is actually considered a rational thought process, but as I say, to me and I'm guessing most others on here, it just screams of complete crazy

Maybe I am because while many of these stories were buried/hidden/censored they are slowly being revealed. I won't tick them off but I recall the same level of criticism/madness/nutjob being aimed at me the first time round. Now that same story is on BBC news.

It might easily be a coincidence but Google/YouTube are censoring the president of the USA, then suddenly within a day of a massive cull, their systems fall over. Yes might be a coincidence. The US department websites also being hacked is almost certainly a coincidence but that also happened today. Yesterday a list of CCP operatives was leaked to the press.

There is a lot going on and I am not making it up. Nobody would believe it. Sorry there aren't any motorcycles in it.

I'm watching this (the major org outages over the last few days I mean rather than this thread) with interest at the moment- I'm confident there is more to it than just bumping into internal storage quotas, and likely still more to come- whether all the facts emerge is another matter of course
Time will tell I guess...

I can't see any way it's possible for all the different systems to break at once through something internal, not on the scale we're talking about for a company of that size.
None of the systems would share storage, share IP space or server hardware, they'd have clusters upon multi redundant systems, x100.

[wheelnut]

The thoughts of a piece of malware or hacking also interested me as you'd expect Google to be very much on the case in advance too.

I think for it to affect several discrete systems, the odds are that it’s malware based (Teams and Onedrive went down on Friday as well).

But I didn't see it coming down to political agenda or even a Chinese conspiracy.

If it is malware based, I doubt it’s some kid in his bedroom. That makes it political, and that points to NK, Russia or China.

[Greenman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55299779

Google applications including YouTube, Gmail and Docs suffer rare outage, with users unable to access services

That's pretty drastic to lose it ALL at once at their end. I get the impression it's global too rather than location specific.

It's my fault, i logged a call to them last week as logging into multiple accounts would throw 404 errors and was driving me and no doubt millions of others mad.

I think it's fixed now, they must of had to restart servers or something to sort it

[DEADPOOL]

If it is malware based, I doubt it’s some kid in his bedroom. That makes it political, and that points to NK, Russia or China.

What is modern warfare? Can the West "win" with boots on the ground, physical domination? When was the last time that worked?

To dispel any rumours I may be completely off my trolley, I submit we actually are at war right now. We are at war with China, Russia, NK, Iran etc. The battlefield is cyberspace and the victor merely has to control hearts and minds.

What's the best way to do that I wonder?

[irie]

The thoughts of a piece of malware or hacking also interested me as you'd expect Google to be very much on the case in advance too.

I think for it to affect several discrete systems, the odds are that it’s malware based (Teams and Onedrive went down on Friday as well).

But I didn't see it coming down to political agenda or even a Chinese conspiracy.

If it is malware based, I doubt it’s some kid in his bedroom. That makes it political, and that points to NK, Russia or China.

https://news.sky.com/story/foreign-gove ... s-12160763

State-sponsored hackers - suspected to be working for Russia - have been monitoring emails at the US Treasury Department and another American federal agency for months, according to the Reuters news agency.

Oops.

People familiar with the matter cited by The Washington Post claimed that it is believed the hackers were working for Russia's foreign intelligence service, the SVR.

Does appear most likely to be an SVR job.

[wheelnut]

Yep, it’s a bit clearer now.

[DEADPOOL]

Yep, it’s a bit clearer now.

For me it's become a little darker tbh. Now this "state interference" has become more widely acknowledged, word on the street is that some malware has so heavily infested these US Federal systems, they can't be wiped and the server hardware (?) needs to be replaced.

I remember the stories about the Israeli Stuxnet worm destroying Iranian nuclear hardware but assume once you know your system is infected, wipe it clean and off you go. How can this latest virus become so embedded, it can't be extracted even when you know of its presence?

Anyhoo, I'm off to get me some Huawei 5G network gubbins, apparently China are virtually giving it away. What could possibly go wrong?