90's bikes are the best!

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Re: 90's bikes are the best!

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Taipan wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:41 pm Eye of the beholder and all that, but i thought 90s superbikes were hideous. Putting lights on, or cobbling lights on, to race look bikes just spoilt the whole look of the bike for me. At least with todays bike the lights blend in with the panel lines.
IMO the 916 shape looks better with lights than without. Ditto the R1.
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Re: 90's bikes are the best!

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I'd add ZX7R to that list.
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Nidge wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:46 pm
Taipan wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:41 pm Eye of the beholder and all that, but i thought 90s superbikes were hideous. Putting lights on, or cobbling lights on, to race look bikes just spoilt the whole look of the bike for me. At least with todays bike the lights blend in with the panel lines.
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Re: 90's bikes are the best!

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Old pie tin had one, thus invalidating any comments he makes about any bike. Ever 😁
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:52 pm I'd add ZX7R to that list.
I was watching the road races at Oliver's Mount this morning,good racing with the ZXR750 and OWO1 etc. The sound of the 2 stroke race was marvellous.
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OW01....that reminds me. How could I have forgotten the most absurdly exotic and unobtainable bike of my youth? Way more special than even a Foggy Rep 916. The holy grail of motorcycles to the 15 year old me.

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:17 pm OW01....that reminds me. How could I have forgotten the most absurdly exotic and unobtainable bike of my youth? Way more special than even a Foggy Rep 916. The holy grail of motorcycles to the 15 year old me.

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And I think most had the engines ripped out and an Exup grafted in.
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Well yeah an R1 is loads faster innit. Its just an absurd bike resulting from WSB rules.
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Harry wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:19 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:17 pm OW01....that reminds me. How could I have forgotten the most absurdly exotic and unobtainable bike of my youth? Way more special than even a Foggy Rep 916. The holy grail of motorcycles to the 15 year old me.

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And I think most had the engines ripped out and an Exup grafted in.
Some did for open races. BSB and WSB were both 750.
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dayglo jim wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:05 pm VFR 750 and Fireblade definitely changed the game. It looks lardy now but comparing the CBR900RR with (its predecessor) the CBR1000F was like chalk and cheese.
Viffer was nothing special for 1986, it's just that the VF750 turned out to be such a bag of shite Honda had to make a decent 750, the 1985 FZ750 is a better bike than the 1986 VFR
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:17 pm OW01....that reminds me. How could I have forgotten the most absurdly exotic and unobtainable bike of my youth? Way more special than even a Foggy Rep 916. The holy grail of motorcycles to the 15 year old me.

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I seriously considered buying one that had done under 1000 miles a couple of years ago - £28K
There's a bloke comes to Classic Bike Trackdays who has two of them, one standard, one with track day bodywork.
Pete Beale has offered me a go on an ex BSB one he's got - but only for parade laps, I'm not allowed to thrash the tits out of it, but I'm not sure how serious he was, and we haven't organised anything.

I don't think many had R1 engines put into them, it's not a straight bolt in job, there were quite a few R1s with R7 looky likey bodywork though.
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:42 pm
I don't think many had R1 engines put into them, it's not a straight bolt in job, there were quite a few R1s with R7 looky likey bodywork though.
I saw Too Tall Tel on one at Mallory :)
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:42 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:17 pm OW01....that reminds me. How could I have forgotten the most absurdly exotic and unobtainable bike of my youth? Way more special than even a Foggy Rep 916. The holy grail of motorcycles to the 15 year old me.

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I seriously considered buying one that had done under 1000 miles a couple of years ago - £28K
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The only reasons I can see to buy one are as an investment, or if you're mega rich.

For anyone even vaguely mortal a standard R1 would be faster wouldn't it? So unless you're a pro racing in a restricted 750cc class it's kinda pointless. :D
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If you're a riding god, then an R7 might be quicker, stock they're 100bhp, same age R1 is 140bhp
I wanted to buy one just because I wanted one, I would have used it, but after a lot of thinking about it I decided that spending £28,000 on a motorcycle really wasn't sensible, I continue to have the same arguments with myself about OW01s - I can afford one, I want one, but I can't use my FZR400 to the limit of it's abilities, or my FZ750 for that matter, and an OW won't be any more fun to ride.
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IIRC the R7's used to twist the crank if you tuned them up a bit... and they were only 100bhp without the 'race kit fitted'.

I think the RC45 was similar power unless you paid the same again for the HRC race kit.
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They're full of Titanium in the engine....titanium internals generally don't last forever!

You might have a long fatigue life but it will still be finite, whereas steel can be built to last forever.
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It even mentions the cranks on the wiki page!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YZF-R7
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 pm If you're a riding god, then an R7 might be quicker, stock they're 100bhp, same age R1 is 140bhp
I wanted to buy one just because I wanted one, I would have used it, but after a lot of thinking about it I decided that spending £28,000 on a motorcycle really wasn't sensible, I continue to have the same arguments with myself about OW01s - I can afford one, I want one, but I can't use my FZR400 to the limit of it's abilities, or my FZ750 for that matter, and an OW won't be any more fun to ride.
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Skub wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:14 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 pm If you're a riding god, then an R7 might be quicker, stock they're 100bhp, same age R1 is 140bhp
I wanted to buy one just because I wanted one, I would have used it, but after a lot of thinking about it I decided that spending £28,000 on a motorcycle really wasn't sensible, I continue to have the same arguments with myself about OW01s - I can afford one, I want one, but I can't use my FZR400 to the limit of it's abilities, or my FZ750 for that matter, and an OW won't be any more fun to ride.
My contribution to that inner discussion would be to add,'yer a long time dead'.
You're not helping :D
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Re: 90's bikes are the best!

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At one time or another I've looked at RC30/45s, R7s, OW01s and a few other bits of fancy kit that I used to drool over as a lad, but none are the thing we dreamt them up to be, none are particularly great road bikes and there is much better stuff out there if you just want to ride your bike on the road, with the odd track day thrown in.

As I said earlier in the thread though, the only reason to own stuff is because it would make you feel very good, and if that's the case then get it bought.
If I felt a burning desire for any bike I'd just buy it now, like Skub says you're a long time dead.