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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:19 am
Yorick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:17 am I can't claim any benefits here or in UK.
And no health cover either.
Completely self sufficient.
Will you get the UK pension?

What about the bus pass? ;)
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:44 am The retirement age and state pension needs recutting, its based on out of date assumptions about how long people live etc. That's not a criticism of people living longer, its just a fact.
The first thing that needs to go is the triple lock on pensions. For those who don't know: the triple lock means pensions increase each year by the higher of the increase in prices, the increase in wages or 2.5% which means over the long term pensions will always increase more than prices or wages.

I'm benefiting from it but it's obviously unsustainable and it needs to go.
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Saga Lout wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:34 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:44 am The retirement age and state pension needs recutting, its based on out of date assumptions about how long people live etc. That's not a criticism of people living longer, its just a fact.
The first thing that needs to go is the triple lock on pensions. For those who don't know: the triple lock means pensions increase each year by the higher of the increase in prices, the increase in wages or 2.5% which means over the long term pensions will always increase more than prices or wages.

I'm benefiting from it but it's obviously unsustainable and it needs to go.
Boris will soon hoof that out next year when Brexit sends prices through the roof :)
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They do keep increasing the state pension age on the back of people apparantly living longer. No one told my mum and dad. 🤷‍♂️ But living/existing longer doesn't always mean we are fit enough to work longer. There are many 65 year olds who cannot continue working due to bad health but are not ready to drop dead just yet.
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Dodgy knees wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:32 pm They do keep increasing the state pension age on the back of people apparantly living longer. No one told my mum and dad. 🤷‍♂️ But living/existing longer doesn't always mean we are fit enough to work longer. There are many 65 year olds who cannot continue working due to bad health but are not ready to drop dead just yet.
Also, its only an average. For poorer people, life expectancy is dropping not rising.
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bevvo wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:43 pm
Dodgy knees wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:32 pm They do keep increasing the state pension age on the back of people apparantly living longer. No one told my mum and dad. 🤷‍♂️ But living/existing longer doesn't always mean we are fit enough to work longer. There are many 65 year olds who cannot continue working due to bad health but are not ready to drop dead just yet.
Also, its only an average. For poorer people, life expectancy is dropping not rising.

Maybe they will let the poorer folk claim their state pension earlier than the wealthier folk, if the wealthy folk get one that is. 🤭
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Harry wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:22 am

I was bemused by soldiers that said they didn't realise they might end up in harms way when they put a uniform on, I usually assumed they were a bit thick.
I watched a decent film recently called ‘71 about a young squaddie in Belfast. There was a great line in it:

“Posh cunts telling thick cunts to kill poor cunts. That's the army for you. It's all a lie.”
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Wonder how many inoculation’s were done today? Lots of TV coverage of the first, along with a corridor lined with NHS staff clapping. Can’t help thinking they may have had better things to do.
Just a thought.
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636mick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:41 pm Wonder how many inoculation’s were done today? Lots of TV coverage of the first, along with a corridor lined with NHS staff clapping. Can’t help thinking they may have had better things to do.
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After all the NHS moaning about being saints - they have joined the old giffers and care home staff to be the first mass testing candidates 👌
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636mick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:41 pm Wonder how many inoculation’s were done today? Lots of TV coverage of the first, along with a corridor lined with NHS staff clapping. Can’t help thinking they may have had better things to do.
Just a thought.
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. However, regulatory restrictions mean that at first, the 50 centres can only administer around 300 jabs a day.

Health officials said the programme will be expanded next week, when hundreds of GP centres are expected to start delivering batches of the vaccine to care home residents across the UK.

Military personnel have been ordered to transform about 10 sites into vaccine hubs within a fortnight.
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All good news when you look at today’s numbers, 616 dead, another 12,300 tested positive. Still question the need for 15-20 NHS staff clapping when we are told how stretched they are at the moment. From experience I know how long it takes to set up a 5 second shot like that.
Also wonder why the regulatory restrictions.
Again, just a thought.
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636mick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:24 pm All good news when you look at today’s numbers, 616 dead, another 12,300 tested positive. Still question the need for 15-20 NHS staff clapping when we are told how stretched they are at the moment. From experience I know how long it takes to set up a 5 second shot like that.
Also wonder why the regulatory restrictions.
Again, just a thought.
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Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
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636mick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:24 pm All good news when you look at today’s numbers, 616 dead, another 12,300 tested positive. Still question the need for 15-20 NHS staff clapping when we are told how stretched they are at the moment. From experience I know how long it takes to set up a 5 second shot like that.
Also wonder why the regulatory restrictions.
Again, just a thought.
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Each pack has 900 shots and once thawed has to be used within 3 or 4 days ..I’m guessing that initially they have issued each of the centres one or two packs with the rest earmarked for the incoming GP surgeries , so 300 a day gets them 6 days of vaccine and they say the next delivery is due next week ..so a combination of pacing themselves and ‘running in’ while they get used to the system .

The fact that you know how much works goes into a publicity shot should suggest that you already understand the value of publicity ...A nation that is drowning in fear and bad news is in great need of some good news and that has to be tempered with caution that people don’t assume it’s all over just because they’ve begun vaccinating ..
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636mick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:31 pm Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
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This will be the first of BILLIONS. Yes, BILLIONS. Surely history should be recorded and celebrated ?
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Gedge wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:12 pm
Each pack has 900 shots and once thawed has to be used within 3 or 4 days ..I’m guessing that initially they have issued each of the centres one or two packs with the rest earmarked for the incoming GP surgeries , so 300 a day gets them 6 days of vaccine and they say the next delivery is due next week ..so a combination of pacing themselves and ‘running in’ while they get used to the system .

The fact that you know how much works goes into a publicity shot should suggest that you already understand the value of publicity ...A nation that is drowning in fear and bad news is in great need of some good news and that has to be tempered with caution that people don’t assume it’s all over just because they’ve begun vaccinating ..
Yorick wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:14 am
636mick wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:31 pm Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
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This will be the first of BILLIONS. Yes, BILLIONS. Surely history should be recorded and celebrated ?
Cheers for the info Gedge, I guess this also gives them time to train nurses on a 2 hour course how to inject it? Agree we need some good news, which I was under the impression the vaccine brings, the people who saw no need to abide by whatever rules the government bought in have already decided it’s all over haven’t they?

Why Yorick? I think we would be better celebrating when it’s saved a few hundred thousand lives and recording that.

Just my thoughts, not saying I’m right or wrong, just how I’m seeing things at present.
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Gedge wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:12 pm
Each pack has 900 shots and once thawed has to be used within 3 or 4 days ..I’m guessing that initially they have issued each of the centres one or two packs with the rest earmarked for the incoming GP surgeries , so 300 a day gets them 6 days of vaccine and they say the next delivery is due next week ..so a combination of pacing themselves and ‘running in’ while they get used to the system .
If the GP's receptionists have anything to do with the deliveries those 3 or 4 days will just disappear in obfuscation. :lol:
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Did Boris just want a head start on getting the vaccine to our shores. ?

Why isn't the rest of the world taking our word for it over the safety of the vaccine, someone said we have the best scientists.?

Time will tell i suppose. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Dodgy knees wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:56 am Did Boris just want a head start on getting the vaccine to our shores. ?

Why isn't the rest of the world taking our word for it over the safety of the vaccine, someone said we have the best scientists.?

Time will tell i suppose. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Because it doesn’t work like that ..there are thousands of different medications in use in parts of the world that are not licensed here or vice versa... Each country makes it’s own rules ..I did read that Russia had been using a vaccine already that was not approved ? But that seems to have gone quiet ...