Pfizer vaccine approved

[Potter]

I can't claim any benefits here or in UK.
And no health cover either.
Completely self sufficient.

Despite my lack of sympathy for some socialist ideology I have always paid a voluntary NI stamp, despite not living in the UK and/or requiring NHS treatment for a couple of decades.

The NHS dealt with my cancer when I was nineteen years old, so even if I never go to an NHS hospital again I'm going to carry on paying my stamp, fundamentally I like the idea of it - but I think that by the time you've had fifty years on the planet you should have provisioned for yourself, so I hope I can continue to put a bit in and take nothing out.

I suppose that means I'm entitled to a state pension as well, although I have no idea what state the state will be in by then.

[Saga Lout]

The retirement age and state pension needs recutting, its based on out of date assumptions about how long people live etc. That's not a criticism of people living longer, its just a fact.

The first thing that needs to go is the triple lock on pensions. For those who don't know: the triple lock means pensions increase each year by the higher of the increase in prices, the increase in wages or 2.5% which means over the long term pensions will always increase more than prices or wages.

I'm benefiting from it but it's obviously unsustainable and it needs to go.

[moth]

The retirement age and state pension needs recutting, its based on out of date assumptions about how long people live etc. That's not a criticism of people living longer, its just a fact.

The first thing that needs to go is the triple lock on pensions. For those who don't know: the triple lock means pensions increase each year by the higher of the increase in prices, the increase in wages or 2.5% which means over the long term pensions will always increase more than prices or wages.

I'm benefiting from it but it's obviously unsustainable and it needs to go.

Boris will soon hoof that out next year when Brexit sends prices through the roof

[Dodgy69]

They do keep increasing the state pension age on the back of people apparantly living longer. No one told my mum and dad. But living/existing longer doesn't always mean we are fit enough to work longer. There are many 65 year olds who cannot continue working due to bad health but are not ready to drop dead just yet.

[bevvo]

They do keep increasing the state pension age on the back of people apparantly living longer. No one told my mum and dad. But living/existing longer doesn't always mean we are fit enough to work longer. There are many 65 year olds who cannot continue working due to bad health but are not ready to drop dead just yet.

Also, its only an average. For poorer people, life expectancy is dropping not rising.

[Dodgy69]

They do keep increasing the state pension age on the back of people apparantly living longer. No one told my mum and dad. But living/existing longer doesn't always mean we are fit enough to work longer. There are many 65 year olds who cannot continue working due to bad health but are not ready to drop dead just yet.

Also, its only an average. For poorer people, life expectancy is dropping not rising.

Maybe they will let the poorer folk claim their state pension earlier than the wealthier folk, if the wealthy folk get one that is.

[Nidge]

I was bemused by soldiers that said they didn't realise they might end up in harms way when they put a uniform on, I usually assumed they were a bit thick.

I watched a decent film recently called ‘71 about a young squaddie in Belfast. There was a great line in it:

“Posh cunts telling thick cunts to kill poor cunts. That's the army for you. It's all a lie.”

[Yorick]

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[636mick]

Wonder how many inoculation’s were done today? Lots of TV coverage of the first, along with a corridor lined with NHS staff clapping. Can’t help thinking they may have had better things to do.
Just a thought.
Mick

[Wreckless Rat]

Wonder how many inoculation’s were done today? Lots of TV coverage of the first, along with a corridor lined with NHS staff clapping. Can’t help thinking they may have had better things to do.
Just a thought.
Mick

After all the NHS moaning about being saints - they have joined the old giffers and care home staff to be the first mass testing candidates

[Gedge]

Wonder how many inoculation’s were done today? Lots of TV coverage of the first, along with a corridor lined with NHS staff clapping. Can’t help thinking they may have had better things to do.
Just a thought.
Mick

. However, regulatory restrictions mean that at first, the 50 centres can only administer around 300 jabs a day.

Health officials said the programme will be expanded next week, when hundreds of GP centres are expected to start delivering batches of the vaccine to care home residents across the UK.

Military personnel have been ordered to transform about 10 sites into vaccine hubs within a fortnight.

[636mick]

All good news when you look at today’s numbers, 616 dead, another 12,300 tested positive. Still question the need for 15-20 NHS staff clapping when we are told how stretched they are at the moment. From experience I know how long it takes to set up a 5 second shot like that.
Also wonder why the regulatory restrictions.
Again, just a thought.
Mick

[Taipan]

All good news when you look at today’s numbers, 616 dead, another 12,300 tested positive. Still question the need for 15-20 NHS staff clapping when we are told how stretched they are at the moment. From experience I know how long it takes to set up a 5 second shot like that.
Also wonder why the regulatory restrictions.
Again, just a thought.
Mick

The worlds eyes were upon us as it was a historic moment in its own right. It was a publicity shot not to be missed at any cost.

[636mick]

Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
Mick

[Gedge]

All good news when you look at today’s numbers, 616 dead, another 12,300 tested positive. Still question the need for 15-20 NHS staff clapping when we are told how stretched they are at the moment. From experience I know how long it takes to set up a 5 second shot like that.
Also wonder why the regulatory restrictions.
Again, just a thought.
Mick

Each pack has 900 shots and once thawed has to be used within 3 or 4 days ..I’m guessing that initially they have issued each of the centres one or two packs with the rest earmarked for the incoming GP surgeries , so 300 a day gets them 6 days of vaccine and they say the next delivery is due next week ..so a combination of pacing themselves and ‘running in’ while they get used to the system .

The fact that you know how much works goes into a publicity shot should suggest that you already understand the value of publicity ...A nation that is drowning in fear and bad news is in great need of some good news and that has to be tempered with caution that people don’t assume it’s all over just because they’ve begun vaccinating ..

[Yorick]

Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
Mick

This will be the first of BILLIONS. Yes, BILLIONS. Surely history should be recorded and celebrated ?

[636mick]

Each pack has 900 shots and once thawed has to be used within 3 or 4 days ..I’m guessing that initially they have issued each of the centres one or two packs with the rest earmarked for the incoming GP surgeries , so 300 a day gets them 6 days of vaccine and they say the next delivery is due next week ..so a combination of pacing themselves and ‘running in’ while they get used to the system .

The fact that you know how much works goes into a publicity shot should suggest that you already understand the value of publicity ...A nation that is drowning in fear and bad news is in great need of some good news and that has to be tempered with caution that people don’t assume it’s all over just because they’ve begun vaccinating ..

Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
Mick

This will be the first of BILLIONS. Yes, BILLIONS. Surely history should be recorded and celebrated ?

Cheers for the info Gedge, I guess this also gives them time to train nurses on a 2 hour course how to inject it? Agree we need some good news, which I was under the impression the vaccine brings, the people who saw no need to abide by whatever rules the government bought in have already decided it’s all over haven’t they?

Why Yorick? I think we would be better celebrating when it’s saved a few hundred thousand lives and recording that.

Just my thoughts, not saying I’m right or wrong, just how I’m seeing things at present.
Mick

[Potter]

I watched a decent film recently called ‘71 about a young squaddie in Belfast. There was a great line in it:

“Posh cunts telling thick cunts to kill poor cunts. That's the army for you. It's all a lie.”

Great film and a provocative line.
It paints quite a dim view of the army in 1971.

"Posh cunts telling thick cunts to do something" is how the world works, not just the army.

[Potter]

Shame that publicity is deemed the priority, but I think you’re dead right. Still not sure I agree with it.
Mick

PR has always been more important than the event, the person or the actual job.

There is a famous saying in law that it's not important for justice to be done, but it is important for justice to be seen to be done. I.e. it doesn't matter if they get it wrong, as long as people think they got it right.

I once went to a lecture for MSc students, by a well known psychologist, which was aimed at senior leaders who managed or aspired to manage very large groups of people, some of it was quite Machiavellian in nature.
The psychology of population control is interesting.

The new news is that the world is saved, Christmas is on.

[Yambo]

Each pack has 900 shots and once thawed has to be used within 3 or 4 days ..I’m guessing that initially they have issued each of the centres one or two packs with the rest earmarked for the incoming GP surgeries , so 300 a day gets them 6 days of vaccine and they say the next delivery is due next week ..so a combination of pacing themselves and ‘running in’ while they get used to the system .

If the GP's receptionists have anything to do with the deliveries those 3 or 4 days will just disappear in obfuscation.