So which are you having then? It's being forced on young people or it isn't?Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:22 pmSo why are they giving it to young front line carers? I missed them.....Harry wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:09 pmYou all wasted a couple of pages to point out to SL that you don't have the vaccine to protect yourself....but 'appen now it's only being given to vulnerable people because it protects them...Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:46 am It's all a bit moot and straw man because kids are not going to be offered it. At the moment it seems no-one under 55 will be, unless they've got an additional health issue.
Forced vaccination of anyone, adult or child, has never been on the table.
You silly sods.
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Subtle change of emphasis, there
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On purpose.
If you have a mortgage to pay and kids to feed, and someone says you can only keep your job if you take this new vaccine, then is it given or forced?
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Has that been suggested? Evidence of that being a widespread requirement?
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I've got the hump at the trolling against anyone that dares speak out at you and your merry men, you've shut Greenie up, Saga Lout and hen pecked at anything I've said as well.
Now you've tripped over your own feet and decided to give up.
You said no one under 55 is getting it, you were wrong, I've point out that you're wrong and now you've spat your dummy out and called me a troll.
Good skills.
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I'm not sure if most of this is hilarious Trump-like conspiracy theory nonsense by maroons or if some of you are just badly informed.
Yes, mistakes do happen in drugs trial, they're not infallible but they're pretty close and if there is a hint of foul play, someone's grifted the data or there's plain incompetence then it will get caught. Lives are genuinely at stake obviously so there's a conscience aspect - plus you can be put away for anything that genuinely compromises the chance of patient safety, even if you're only 'aware' rather than directly involved.
There's not a chance of the government sneaking in anything iffy in this arena. There's too many actual experts who actually know what they're doing and have a vested interest. A bit like the twin towers.
Yes, mistakes do happen in drugs trial, they're not infallible but they're pretty close and if there is a hint of foul play, someone's grifted the data or there's plain incompetence then it will get caught. Lives are genuinely at stake obviously so there's a conscience aspect - plus you can be put away for anything that genuinely compromises the chance of patient safety, even if you're only 'aware' rather than directly involved.
There's not a chance of the government sneaking in anything iffy in this arena. There's too many actual experts who actually know what they're doing and have a vested interest. A bit like the twin towers.
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Cast again.Harry wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:52 pmI've got the hump at the trolling against anyone that dares speak out at you and your merry men, you've shut Greenie up, Saga Lout and hen pecked at anything I've said as well.
Now you've tripped over your own feet and decided to give up.
You said no one under 55 is getting it, you were wrong, I've point out that you're wrong and now you've spat your dummy out and called me a troll.
Good skills.
I actually pointed out I was wrong myself.
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I don't know about 'forced' but something along the lines of losing your livelihood if you refuse to will be sure to come.
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You need to do a bit of research, there are lots of drugs that pass trials and then go on to kill people through no-error prescribing.DefTrap wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:53 pm I'm not sure if most of this is hilarious Trump-like conspiracy theory nonsense by maroons or if some of you are just badly informed.
Yes, mistakes do happen in drugs trial, they're not infallible but they're pretty close and if there is a hint of foul play, someone's grifted the data or there's plain incompetence then it will get caught. Lives are genuinely at stake obviously so there's a conscience aspect - plus you can be put away for anything that genuinely compromises the chance of patient safety, even if you're only 'aware' rather than directly involved.
There's not a chance of the government sneaking in anything iffy in this arena. There's too many actual experts who actually know what they're doing and have a vested interest. A bit like the twin towers.
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So, in other words, you invented something
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Anticipated is a more suitable word.
I anticipate that young care workers will be given no choice about taking the vaccine if they want to keep their jobs.
What do you think?
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I think it supports suggestions that you are trolling.
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The original plan was to vaccinate the old giffers in care-homes, effectively mass testing on old folks, who let's face it, the UK do not care about. Care-home staff whined like a fucked milk float about missing out on the vaccine, so they are now included in that mass testing. I have >< that much sympathy.
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Then you need to tell me the definition of trolling because I'm about a whisker away from fucking this forum off. If you post anything that contradicts what the clique has posted here then the reply come back as "trolling".
I've asked you if you think young people working in care homes will be told that can only keep their jobs if they take the vaccine. I think they probably will and I asked your opinion. If asking that question is trolling them don't answer and I'll fuck off because this forum has rules I can't understand.
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I think you're right, I also think the number who'll genuinely object could be counted on one hand. I can't see that many of them would need to be coerced.
So if you want that as some kind of "aha, gotcha!" evidence that young people are being forced againt their will to take experimental drugs, go ahead. It wouldn't really do much to change my assessment.
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So we agree that some people may not want to take it, but they will under duress to enable them to keep their job and pay check.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:05 pm
I think you're right, I also think the number who'll genuinely object could be counted on one hand. I can't see that many of them would need to be coerced.
So if you want that as some kind of "aha, gotcha!" evidence that young people are being forced againt their will to take experimental drugs, go ahead. It wouldn't really do much to change my assessment.
Thats ALL my point was and I was right - how fucking difficult was it to move you to agree that point.
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Yeah there is no contention from me. I think the problem is you assume I haven't already considered that point. I suppose you're not a mind reader.Harry wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:08 pmSo we agree that some people may not want to take it, but they will under duress to enable them to keep their job and pay check.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:05 pm
I think you're right, I also think the number who'll genuinely object could be counted on one hand. I can't see that many of them would need to be coerced.
So if you want that as some kind of "aha, gotcha!" evidence that young people are being forced againt their will to take experimental drugs, go ahead. It wouldn't really do much to change my assessment.
Thats ALL my point was and I was right - how fucking difficult was it to move you to agree that point.
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You know in some care homes being vaccinated against things like flu is already a compulsory requirement...Harry wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:08 pmSo we agree that some people may not want to take it, but they will under duress to enable them to keep their job and pay check.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:05 pm
I think you're right, I also think the number who'll genuinely object could be counted on one hand. I can't see that many of them would need to be coerced.
So if you want that as some kind of "aha, gotcha!" evidence that young people are being forced againt their will to take experimental drugs, go ahead. It wouldn't really do much to change my assessment.
Thats ALL my point was and I was right - how fucking difficult was it to move you to agree that point.
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I know.Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:11 pm
You know in some care homes being vaccinated against things like flu is already a compulsory requirement...
That's how I know I'm right here too.