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by Wreckless Rat » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:04 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:55 pm
I'm 53 and I don't want it, I don't need a vaccine for something that isn't going to kill me and people who've had the vaccine will still carry it and transmit it.
People who have had the vaccine, won't carry it and transmit it, that's just utter bollocks.
Vaccines prime your body to recognise and eliminate the virus before it gets the chance to take over huge amounts of cells and use your own body to reproduce it. That is the entire point of a vaccine. ergo you don't get ill and you don't spread it either.
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by The Martian » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:06 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:03 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:01 pm
You will be significantly less infectious than if you develop it full blown and if enough people vaccinate this risk is reduced further. This is herd immunity.
Yes, we are immune to many diseases that can affect animals.. the problem comes when that disease mutates to be able to attack humans. The ones we can't get we don't worry about because we can't get them.
The immunities we have against known human diseases have ALL come from science.. every single one.
So people have no immunity to flu?
People who have had flu will become immune to the particular strain they have had... or have had the flu jab making them immune to several strains. No one is immune to all strains of the flu.
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by Pseudonym » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:13 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:49 pm
Why should covid be any different? It's clearly deadly for some, maybe not you, but the people you pass it to.
Don't listen to conspiracy theories on it, most of the people making the most noise can't grasp basic chemistry.
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Only Chemistry?
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by The Martian » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:17 pm
Pseudonym wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:13 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:49 pm
Why should covid be any different? It's clearly deadly for some, maybe not you, but the people you pass it to.
Don't listen to conspiracy theories on it, most of the people making the most noise can't grasp basic chemistry.
Only Chemistry?
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I was just sticking to the relevant understanding of the subject, avoiding possible mud slinging as I think it's a subject that needs to be discussed calmly and kept to facts because of the tension in it.
Ps you've made a right mess of the quote boxes
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by Wreckless Rat » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:18 pm
Pseudonym wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:13 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:49 pm
Why should covid be any different? It's clearly deadly for some, maybe not you, but the people you pass it to.
Don't listen to conspiracy theories on it, most of the people making the most noise can't grasp basic chemistry.
Only Chemistry?
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Indeed. These folks never mention the fact they put table salt on their food, which is made from sodium, a highly reactive metal that bursts into flames if you get it wet and chlorine, something used as a toxic gas in the first world war.
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by Saga Lout » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:19 pm
Skub wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:00 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:55 pm
I'm 53 and I don't want it, I don't need a vaccine for something that isn't going to kill me and people who've had the vaccine will still carry it and transmit it.
Your citizen rights will be revoked. It's the gulag for you,young man.
Quite right. He's obviously mentally deranged. A prime candidate for the re-education camps.
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by Wreckless Rat » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 pm
weeksy wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:22 pm
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by weeksy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:24 pm
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 pm
weeksy wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:22 pm
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shit... the matrix.... RUN everyone RUN....
that didn't quite work did it.
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by Le_Fromage_Grande » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
So vaxxers, what are you going to do when the virus mutates into something the vaccine can't deal with?
I do find it odd that some people are so offended that I don't want to take the vaccine and want to force me to take it, surely if everyone who wants to take the vaccine takes it they'll be protected and those that don't accept the risk?
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by The Martian » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
weeksy wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:22 pm
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I was just thinking the same!
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by Saga Lout » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:35 pm
My MiL caught Covid recently, she's OK fortunately. She's not left her care home in 2 years and very rarely even leaves her room due to health issues.
She is only looked after by health care professionals and anyone who sees her has to be in full ppe.
She still caught it.
How much more isolated do you want her to be?
If someone that isolated still gets it how is your plan gonna work?
She obviously caught it from somebody. It sounds to me that you're saying PPE doesn't work.
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by Pseudonym » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:33 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:17 pm
Pseudonym wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:13 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:49 pm
Why should covid be any different? It's clearly deadly for some, maybe not you, but the people you pass it to.
Don't listen to conspiracy theories on it, most of the people making the most noise can't grasp basic chemistry.
Only Chemistry?
I was just sticking to the relevant understanding of the subject, avoiding possible mud slinging as I think it's a subject that needs to be discussed calmly and kept to facts because of the tension in it.
Ps you've made a right mess of the quote boxes
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by The Martian » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:34 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
So vaxxers, what are you going to do when the virus mutates into something the vaccine can't deal with?
I do find it odd that some people are so offended that I don't want to take the vaccine and want to force me to take it, surely if everyone who wants to take the vaccine takes it they'll be protected and those that don't accept the risk?
I'm not offended.. I'm disappointed.
Herd immunity needs a high percentage of vaccinated to work, so those that refuse it without good reason will reduce how effective it can be and more vulnerable people will die as a result.
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by The Martian » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:36 pm
Saga Lout wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:35 pm
My MiL caught Covid recently, she's OK fortunately. She's not left her care home in 2 years and very rarely even leaves her room due to health issues.
She is only looked after by health care professionals and anyone who sees her has to be in full ppe.
She still caught it.
How much more isolated do you want her to be?
If someone that isolated still gets it how is your plan gonna work?
She obviously caught it from somebody. It sounds to me that you're saying PPE doesn't work.
Don't be a Pillock, of course it's not 100% effective.. nothing is.
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by Mr. Dazzle » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:37 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:34 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
So vaxxers, what are you going to do when the virus mutates into something the vaccine can't deal with?
I do find it odd that some people are so offended that I don't want to take the vaccine and want to force me to take it, surely if everyone who wants to take the vaccine takes it they'll be protected and those that don't accept the risk?
I'm not offended.. I'm disappointed.
Herd immunity needs a high percentage of vaccinated to work, so those that refuse it without good reason will reduce how effective it can be and more vulnerable people will die as a result.
That really.
Traditionally, as in before anti vaxxers were a thing, you'd need herd immunity to protect the people who CAN'T have the vaccine, rather than won't.
By vaccinating large percentages of the population you protect the people who can't have the jab. Its a societal effort for the good of everyone.
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by Le_Fromage_Grande » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:40 pm
The Martian wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:34 pm
I'm not offended.. I'm disappointed.
Herd immunity needs a high percentage of vaccinated to work, so those that refuse it without good reason will reduce how effective it can be and more vulnerable people will die as a result.
People have to die of something, if it's not this virus, it will be the next one.
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by Horse » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:46 pm
Saga Lout wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm It sounds to me that you're saying PPE doesn't work.
Have you not read any of the stuff about hi viz?
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by Nidge » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:47 pm
It's incredibly selfish not to take the vaccine if/when it is offered. As mentioned before to achieve herd immunity there has to be a sufficient uptake of the vaccine. I'm sure there are some instances where there might be an excuse for not taking it- maybe polio makes it difficult to get to the surgery, or smallpox leaves you too weak to leave the bed but of course you have neither of those things because, you know, vaccines....
Personally I think this is great news however I suspect the results from the Oxford trial will be the game changer. Firstly as those results will be published after peer review, and secondly it can be kept in a normal fridge rather than needing to be super chilled making it easier to store and distribute. It is also significantly cheaper than the mRNA vaccines.
I'm obviously pro vaccine and am partaking in the Novavax trial, the results of which will be known next year
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by Mr. Dazzle » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:48 pm
Saga Lout wrote: ↑ Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm
She obviously caught it from somebody. It sounds to me that you're saying PPE doesn't work.
No, it doesn't. Not 100% anyway. Social distancing isn't 100% effective either. Neither are vaccines.
A vaccine thats 90% effective, and perhaps far more importantly doesn't require the 'user' to do anything correctly to achieve that 90%, is a pretty powerful tool.