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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:31 pm
JamJar wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:58 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:19 pm

That is a lie.
No it isn’t, you constantly peddle conspiracy bullshit … WEF blah blah blah …. Replacement theory wibble wibble …. People are arrested for hurts tweets … you’re a racist who spreads lies and disinformation.

Is that all you got? Meaningless, unsubstantiated and unspecified rhetoric?

Give me an example so we can all see you're full of shit.
I gave you examples, WEF interference, replacement theory, phone election rigging, people being locked up for using hurty words, the Southport killer was an Islamic terrorist etc.
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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pmLink?
While I hunt for that, have the 'Harris is half white' to be going on with.

Horse wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:40 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:49 am
This race baiting nonsense is nasty. I agree. Kamala is half white, half Indian ...

Interestingly ALL of the debunking of some of these outrageous claims just trot out the same old "conspiracy theorist" rhetoric ... and offers no evidence ...

So yeah, it looks quite spectacularly unbelievable
According to the New York Times, these are her parents:

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If that's her father
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If it's not been photoshopped

Then he's not particularly white.

And if he's sufficiently black to not be white, then your post qualifies as nasty and conspiracy theorist.

The NYT might be wrong; if so, please post evidence.
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Screwdriver wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:44 pm Do they share our values? No. They bring their own and "in todays news" an elected politician stood up in parliament arguing that incestuous marriage should be allowed.
Good old British values, like supporting incestuous marriages between 1st cousins are what make this nation great.
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JamJar wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:34 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:31 pm
JamJar wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:58 pm No it isn’t, you constantly peddle conspiracy bullshit … WEF blah blah blah …. Replacement theory wibble wibble …. People are arrested for hurts tweets … you’re a racist who spreads lies and disinformation.

Is that all you got? Meaningless, unsubstantiated and unspecified rhetoric?

Give me an example so we can all see you're full of shit.
I gave you examples, WEF interference, replacement theory, phone election rigging, people being locked up for using hurty words, the Southport killer was an Islamic terrorist etc.
No you idiot, I don't need a list of things you don't understand, I need a specific example of something I have said which you think is incorrect or "conspiracy theory".
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Screwdriver wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:44 pm Do they share our values? No. They bring their own and "in todays news" an elected politician stood up in parliament arguing that incestuous marriage should be allowed.
I didn’t realise we had any Mormon MPs!
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MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:11 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:44 pm Do they share our values? No. They bring their own and "in todays news" an elected politician stood up in parliament arguing that incestuous marriage should be allowed.
Good old British values, like supporting incestuous marriages between 1st cousins are what make this nation great.
...and the result is a huge skew in the data for those requiring lifelong treatments for birth defects caused by inbreeding.

Damn. Now that does sound "racist" because "inbreeding" is such an inflammatory term but facts are facts and you can't argue with the data.
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wheelnut wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:29 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:44 pm Do they share our values? No. They bring their own and "in todays news" an elected politician stood up in parliament arguing that incestuous marriage should be allowed.
I didn’t realise we had any Mormon MPs!
I don't think he is. Are you saying they're at it too? Anyhow here's Iqbal Mohamed telling us why it's ok, you can wade through this crap yourself...

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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pmLink?
Bonus, you get an image and a quote, much easier than having to open links in new tabs. But if you need actual links, it's easy to do a keyword search.

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Horse wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:24 am Fact checking? Already done, for at least one instance.

www.wbtv.com/2024/10/21/fact-check-kann ... pervision/

CLAIM: Voting machines in Kannapolis stopped working. Ballots were gathered to be counted later.

Determination: The basic claims in the video are true, but missing some very important context. One machine at the downtown Kannapolis train station did go down for a few hours, but the county had a plan for these types of occurrences and poll workers carried it out. The ballots were secured in a locked box where they were placed by the voters until the machine could be repaired and a team of poll workers from both major political parties put the ballots back through the counting machine.

Source: Carol Soles, Director of the Cabarrus County Board of Elections.

Details: In the video, a voter claims that ballots were being collected due to non-functioning scanning machines, sparking concerns about the integrity of the voting process.

Cabarrus County Board of Elections Director, Carol Soles confirmed that the ballot scanning machine, known as the DS 200, did indeed stop working temporarily.

However, she emphasized that such occurrences are anticipated, and they have established backup procedures in place.

“There’s an emergency bin within that same piece of equipment,” Soles explained, ensuring that ballots remained secure and did not leave the building during the outage.

According to Soles, the voters themselves place the ballots in the “emergency bin” where they remain locked and under supervision until a team of bipartisan poll workers can take them out and scan them into the counting machine.

Soles reassured voters that their ballots were safe and securely handled throughout the process, stating, “We do voter history each day... to ensure the number of ballots counted matches the number of applications to vote.”

She said that if there had been any change in the number of ballots, it would have immediately signaled an issue.
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1st cousin marriages have always been legal, and are in most of the EU too and Africa and Australia etc etc, why is it now a problem?
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Horse wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:44 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pmLink?
Bonus, you get an image and a quote, much easier than having to open links in new tabs. But if you need actual links, it's easy to do a keyword search.
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This is why I try to avoid engaging with low value individuals like you. You took my comment out of context from an entirely different conversation I had days earlier with Mr.Dazzle. Not only that, it is nothing at all to do with the topic at hand.
Horse wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:24 am Fact checking? Already done, for at least one instance.
Straw man. Never heard of Kannapolis, never made a comment about it so for you to suggest you are "fact checking" on something I have said is an outright lie.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:51 pm 1st cousin marriages have always been legal, and are in most of the EU too and Africa and Australia etc etc, why is it now a problem?
Because now we can see the skew in the demographic data the results of inbreeding. Deformities both physical and mental are massively over represented by such a small proportion of the population. It's difficult enough getting any sort of service from the NHS as it is without encouraging this practice which leads to so many lifelong disabilities.
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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:53 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:51 pm 1st cousin marriages have always been legal, and are in most of the EU too and Africa and Australia etc etc, why is it now a problem?
Because now we can see the skew in the demographic data the results of inbreeding. Deformities both physical and mental are massively over represented by such a small proportion of the population. It's difficult enough getting any sort of service from the NHS as it is without encouraging this practice which leads to so many lifelong disabilities.
Do you have the figures as I've not seen them, how do they compare with other countries such as Spain & Italy which have a higher percentage of 1st cousin marriages then we do?
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Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:46 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:44 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:30 pmLink?
Bonus, you get an image and a quote, much easier than having to open links in new tabs. But if you need actual links, it's easy to do a keyword search.
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This is why I try to avoid engaging with low value individuals like you. You took my comment out of context from an entirely different conversation I had days earlier with Mr.Dazzle. Not only that, it is nothing at all to do with the topic at hand.
Horse wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:24 am Fact checking? Already done, for at least one instance.
Straw man. Never heard of Kannapolis, never made a comment about it so for you to suggest you are "fact checking" on something I have said is an outright lie.
So caught out twice, with proof, but you can't admit it.

I'm a low value individual? Avoid engaging? Hah! Bollox. You asked for a link because you were afraid of being caught out, called out, found out, and you have been.

You are, of course, completely correct that you didn't mention Kannapolis. You didn't actually mention where the alleged incident took place.

But I was doing what you often suggest: searching beyond. And Kannapolis was the only place that an incident of that type was reported - and fact checked. Straw man? Prove it, with verified details of those 'multiple States'. But you won't.

And as for taking that comment and using it out of context. You used the words "I do not". Not " ... but I do sometimes" or "I do, but you'll have to guess where". It's not my fault if you can't be exact.

I'm a low value individual? Perhaps I am. But you're not exactly showing yourself in a good light, are you?

For the benefit of others, how about you define your scale of individual value. In fact, it deserves its own thread.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:51 pm 1st cousin marriages have always been legal, and are in most of the EU too and Africa and Australia etc etc, why is it now a problem?
Surprised you have to ask.

It becomes a significant health problem when it happens over and over again, through generations.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 pm Do you have the figures as I've not seen them, how do they compare with other countries such as Spain & Italy which have a higher percentage of 1st cousin marriages then we do?
That's a good question. I sincerely doubt the figures I have seen are particularly reliable and the source is certainly not reputable. I'll see if I can dig something up as it piques my interest. Remembering the thrust of my argument was more about the gradual erosion of British cultural norms rather than specific examples of how our society is changing.

Also it has to be said that there are many examples for where such data is deliberately either hidden or (allegedly) not collected. This is especially true for illegal immigration or migrant hotspots.
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Horse wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:31 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:46 pm This is why I try to avoid engaging with low value individuals like you. You took my comment out of context from an entirely different conversation I had days earlier with Mr.Dazzle. Not only that, it is nothing at all to do with the topic at hand.

Straw man. Never heard of Kannapolis, never made a comment about it so for you to suggest you are "fact checking" on something I have said is an outright lie.
So caught out twice, with proof, but you can't admit it.
Patently not true. You took an excerpt from a different conversation I was having with someone else where I said I wasn't "putting meaning on anything" to suggest "therefore" everything I say is a statement of fact and not an opinion. That in itself is a great example of why conversations with people like you are low value. It does not address the topic at hand but is an attempt at an irrelevant "gotcha".

Again, you take "an example" of something I haven't said, "fact check" it and present it as if your made up example is some sort of proof.

It's like trying to have a rational conversation while a baboon is on the sidelines throwing shite. I wish I could just ignore it but then the baboon will just say "see I got 'im".
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JackyJoll wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:14 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:51 pm 1st cousin marriages have always been legal, and are in most of the EU too and Africa and Australia etc etc, why is it now a problem?
Surprised you have to ask.

It becomes a significant health problem when it happens over and over again, through generations.
I never gave it any thought until last week. It popped up on the 'news' and I was confused because I always though it was illegal, come to find it isn't and never has, further come to find it was raised in parliament 20 odd years ago http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/n ... 442010.stm

And since Scrw'd brough it up here I come to find that aside from the US and China it's pretty common place, so whilst yes common sense would dictate that the gene pool maybe getting shallower for them there aren't any real hard and fast numbers, and no moves to make it illegal.

Of course one could argue that no one dare make it illegal in case they offend a certain sector of the populous, but then those who might think that should sleep easy that if it is introducing massive numbers of health problems those same sections are doing the world a favour by self regulating their numbers.
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In the mid 90's when i left Bradford to come back to Scotland i bumped into an old mate and his new girlfriend. Turned out she was his cousin and the family are disowning them even though they were doing nothing wrong. We kept InTouch for about a year and they were still together when i last heard from him. TBF i thought it was illegal also until i bumped into him.
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Makes me want to drop a hundred quid in a local craft store and go on a public art improvement bender

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