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Harry's video on it...

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I've not watched any of the reveal videos but those wheels with very limited suspension travel are shit, for that reason alone I'm out.
Otherwise I'm not sure what jaguar should have done, customers wanting an SUV will buy LR and anyone wanting a large family car was shafted when diesel fell out of fashion.
My Jag is brilliant on paper but in reality is pretty dull to drive. I suspect most modern cars are the same and have become a boring commodity.
I want autonomous vehicles that I can control drunk, driving has lost its appeal.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:02 pm


Saw a snippet recently, quoting from a pre-publication paper from 2 astronomers/astrophysicists basically saying that ALL advanced civilizations will self-destruct within about a 1000 years.

1000 years starting from when?
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Yambo wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:22 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:02 pm


Saw a snippet recently, quoting from a pre-publication paper from 2 astronomers/astrophysicists basically saying that ALL advanced civilizations will self-destruct within about a 1000 years.

1000 years starting from when?
The coronation of King Conrad II of Germany.
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Yambo wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:22 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:02 pm


Saw a snippet recently, quoting from a pre-publication paper from 2 astronomers/astrophysicists basically saying that ALL advanced civilizations will self-destruct within about a 1000 years.

1000 years starting from when?
Modern industrial civilization, akin to the Industrial Revolution. So we are 2-300 years in, and seeing problems. 1000 years on this planet may be an optimistic estimate.
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We need to stop worrying about all this environmental stuff.

The AI's will have killed us all off long before the planet becomes uninhabitable through global warming.
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:13 pm We need to stop worrying about all this environmental stuff.

The AI's will have killed us all off long before the planet becomes uninhabitable through global warming.
We really are very good at finding ways to terminate ourselves as a species. And doubtless taking a fair few others with us.

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mangocrazy wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:09 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:13 pm We need to stop worrying about all this environmental stuff.

The AI's will have killed us all off long before the planet becomes uninhabitable through global warming.
We really are very good at finding ways to terminate ourselves as a species. And doubtless taking a fair few others with us.

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If humans were good at it, there'd be none left
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weeksy wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:16 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:09 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:13 pm We need to stop worrying about all this environmental stuff.

The AI's will have killed us all off long before the planet becomes uninhabitable through global warming.
We really are very good at finding ways to terminate ourselves as a species. And doubtless taking a fair few others with us.

Cockroaches will inherit the earth.
If humans were good at it, there'd be none left
We've found all sorts of ways to off ourselves, but have always either stepped back from the brink (nuclear war) or it's going to take some time (climate change) or we've set something in motion we can't stop or control (AI).

Sorry to be such a cheerful fucker... :D
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Taipan wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:16 pm Harry's video on it...

I struggled to make it three minutes into that...
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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 4:53 am
Taipan wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:16 pm Harry's video on it...

I struggled to make it three minutes into that...
Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
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Harry Metcalfe founded Evo magazine, IMO the best of the monthly glossy car mags (Autocar is the best overall IMO). He's not some random YouTuber with stupid click bait vids :D

His vids are way more watchable than most car ones IMO.
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Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:28 am
ZRX61 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 4:53 am
Taipan wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:16 pm Harry's video on it...

I struggled to make it three minutes into that...
Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
Yup. I thought the car looked quite Jag like from some angles (sort of low 3/4 view) and you can speculate on how it will change by the time it reaches the road.
Interesting if the pricing is as predicted and the target markets are as said. Not quite sure where they're pitching it if it's 'cheapish'...but then again they've always sat below the luxury bunch and above the 'sales rep' bracket. Sort of 'Essex aspirational'. :D
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:41 am
Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:28 am
ZRX61 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 4:53 am

I struggled to make it three minutes into that...
Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
Yup. I thought the car looked quite Jag like from some angles (sort of low 3/4 view) and you can speculate on how it will change by the time it reaches the road.
Interesting if the pricing is as predicted and the target markets are as said. Not quite sure where they're pitching it if it's 'cheapish'...but then again they've always sat below the luxury bunch and above the 'sales rep' bracket. Sort of 'Essex aspirational'. :D
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:41 am
Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:28 am
ZRX61 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 4:53 am

I struggled to make it three minutes into that...
Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
Yup. I thought the car looked quite Jag like from some angles (sort of low 3/4 view) and you can speculate on how it will change by the time it reaches the road.
Interesting if the pricing is as predicted and the target markets are as said. Not quite sure where they're pitching it if it's 'cheapish'...but then again they've always sat below the luxury bunch and above the 'sales rep' bracket. Sort of 'Essex aspirational'. :D
Funnily enough - this article describes old Jaguar is a very similar vein :

https://www.theautopian.com/why-jaguar- ... o-save-it/
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Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:28 am Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
I know, I subscribe to both his YT channels..but I have less than zero interest in what anyone has to say about that fucking abortion.
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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:52 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:28 am Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
I know, I subscribe to both his YT channels..but I have less than zero interest in what anyone has to say about that fucking abortion.
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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:52 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:28 am Should have stuck with it. He''s worth listening to...
I know, I subscribe to both his YT channels..but I have less than zero interest in what anyone has to say about that fucking abortion.
Ok,so for the survey, should we put you as 'undecided'? :)
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Horse wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 5:54 pm Ok,so for the survey, should we put you as 'undecided'? :)
I got banned from Garage Journal forum for sharing a video about it... The admin has a bad habit of seeing political motive where there isn't one & I was out the door after 20 years & 29,000 posts.
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