Is Russia just about to invade Ukraine?

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Screwdriver wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:16 am
Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:14 am So - Trump is a good guy?
One of the very best.
I think even his closest friends (or family) wouldn’t say that about him :D
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wheelnut wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:27 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:16 am
Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:14 am So - Trump is a good guy?
One of the very best.
I think even his closest friends (or family) wouldn’t say that about him :D
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Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:06 pm I do not "put meaning" on anything. I dig around and form an opinion and share it here to see how it flies.
But that's not true, is it?

In this post you lead with a statement. Not an opinion. Full quote, BTW.
Screwdriver wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:14 am The cheats are in already. Multiple states are reporting the voting machines are allegedly "broken" and "just give us your ballot and we'll count it later."

It's a scanner for fucks sake. I mean, sometimes technology can fail but not all of them, all at the same time....
I searched, could only find one instance - where that later count was under bipartisan supervision.
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Screwdriver wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:16 am
Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:14 am So - Trump is a good guy?
One of the very best.
Nice illustration of why I don’t take any of your diatribes on here seriously.
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Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:09 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:16 am
Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:14 am So - Trump is a good guy?
One of the very best.
Nice illustration of why I don’t take any of your diatribes on here seriously.
Thanks for letting me know your opinion is so prejudiced.
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Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:09 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:16 am
Wossname wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:14 am So - Trump is a good guy?
One of the very best.
Nice illustration of why I don’t take any of your diatribes on here seriously.
I really fail to understand how anyone can support a man convicted (ok in a civil case) of sexual abuse. The rape charge (in the civil court) didn't stand because of wording.

But, if a sexual abuser (and quite probably rapist as how many women out there don't want to go through what E. Jean Carroll did when she brought charges?) is classed as a good guy, one of the best, then the world has indeed gone totally mad :( :(

Ok, some of the people in the world, but really? Is this really someone that should be in charge of a country??

I just hope that this is a wind up by Screwdriver, but I can't tell anymore :( :(
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What amazes me is that any rational person would believe that story.

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Horse wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:57 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:06 pm I do not "put meaning" on anything. I dig around and form an opinion and share it here to see how it flies.
But that's not true, is it?

In this post you lead with a statement. Not an opinion. Full quote, BTW.
Screwdriver wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:14 am The cheats are in already. Multiple states are reporting the voting machines are allegedly "broken" and "just give us your ballot and we'll count it later."

It's a scanner for fucks sake. I mean, sometimes technology can fail but not all of them, all at the same time....
I searched, could only find one instance - where that later count was under bipartisan supervision.
Hmm go for a lovely pub lunch. Come back to find extreme faecal:fan interface, so little chance of getting an understandable explanation.
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Biden authorises Ukraine to use US long-range missiles to strike Russia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cjdl98dk40gt

Trying to get Ukraine a win before Trump stops support?
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How much longer can this go on, Russia has used it's troops, its mercenary groups, emptied its prisons and now using North Korean soldiers, will China supply boots on the ground to prolong it further?
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MrLongbeard wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:14 pm How much longer can this go on, Russia has used it's troops, its mercenary groups, emptied its prisons and now using North Korean soldiers, will China supply boots on the ground to prolong it further?
Nah, once Putin is done china will invade the ruskies.
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Ridiculous move by sleepy Joe. He knows Trump has a shoo-in with Putin but has possible jeopardised any chance of Trump brokering a peace agreement. Why wait until now, he asked cynically...
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Taipan wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:06 pm brokering a peace agreement.
I don't see it, Ukraine won't give up any of their land after the Crimea, Russia will insist on a buffer zone (comprised of Ukrainian land)
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MrLongbeard wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:05 pm
Taipan wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:06 pm brokering a peace agreement.
I don't see it, Ukraine won't give up any of their land after the Crimea, Russia will insist on a buffer zone (comprised of Ukrainian land)
You may well be right, but I'm not seeing anyone else even looking at it from Trumps angle and Bidens parting gift has likely set back any possible negotiations! :roll:
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I think it's the complete opposite.

Biden has given Trump a bargaining tool.

Come Trumps first week in office, he can call Putin on the batphone and say "Yo Dude, give me some slack in Ukraine and I'll take away the ATACAMS".

If Biden hadn't allowed the missiles to be used, what would old Trumpy have to offer Putin?
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:52 pm I think it's the complete opposite.

Biden has given Trump a bargaining tool.

Come Trumps first week in office, he can call Putin on the batphone and say "Yo Dude, give me some slack in Ukraine and I'll take away the ATACAMS".

If Biden hadn't allowed the missiles to be used, what would old Trumpy have to offer Putin?
Putin has already said he'd talk with Trump and he admires him and sees him as a courageous man. I think this was a deliberate act by Biden et al to try and sabotage any peace talks.

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Putin has flattered Trump and Trump is so pleased that Putin has been nice to him he'll give him whatever he asks. What Biden did was the same as the west has been doing dor the last 3 years, drip feed arms to Ukraine, just enough to keep them fighting, not enough to win. I think Trump will stop all supplies to Ukraine and the European countries will not be able to make up the defecit. Zelensky will be forced to make peace on Russia's terms and Putin can rebuild and turn his attention to the next victim - Georgia maybe, or the Baltic states?

Appeasing an expansionist dictator has always worked in the past, hasn't it?
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The US is the biggest arms exporter, if they stop supplying Ukraine and others fill the void then the US is likely to lose some market share and they really don't want that.
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:52 pm I think it's the complete opposite.

Biden has given Trump a bargaining tool.

Come Trumps first week in office, he can call Putin on the batphone and say "Yo Dude, give me some slack in Ukraine and I'll take away the ATACAMS".

If Biden hadn't allowed the missiles to be used, what would old Trumpy have to offer Putin?
That. Also that russia knows that biden is on the way out which may put them off escalating until they can deal with trump. Perhaps.

That does assume some sort of rationality on russia's part though, which may or may not be there.
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Whose troops are firing the UK & US long range missiles into Russia? It sure as fuck isn't the Ukrainians