2029 general election results prediction.

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Re: 2029 general election results prediction.

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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:46 am
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:01 am
Mussels wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:49 pm What we have is a form of PR, just further down the scale than some would like. The extreme other end is where every law change is subject to a referendum, so different parties will just pick the version they think will benefit them most.
I fail to see anything proportional in our FPTP system. Reform polled 14.3% of the overall vote and were rewarded with precisely 4 seats out of 650. Labour polled 33.7% of the vote and were rewarded with 411 seats.

Proportional my arse.
You mean approximately 4 seats, i.e. precisely 5 seats.

Your point is still valid. ;)
Indeed. In my defence I'd say that Google mislead me...

Just found this web page, which states that the gap between vote share and seat share in 2024 was the most disproportionate on record. Which I wasn't aware of:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/20 ... he-greens/
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Of course Farage wants PR, right up until the point that it doesn't work in his favour anyway. ;) And the whole thing probably puts us on the road to devolution, the breakup of the UK. Would the sensible and sensitive types of liberal London really be comfortable with the freeloading racists of Clacton holding the balance of power? I jest of course but you get the idea.

The reality is that you most likely end up with government by coalition, and Parties with very disparate ideas making pacts over certain issues. I'm not convinced that this is a practical solution.
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Re: 2029 general election results prediction.

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DefTrap wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:08 am

The reality is that you most likely end up with government by coalition, and Parties with very disparate ideas making pacts over certain issues. I'm not convinced that this is a practical solution.
Works reasonably well in most of Europe. :)

Until such time as it doesn't, and said coalitions fall apart. :think:
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And who are you supposed to blame?!
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gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:43 am
DefTrap wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:08 am

The reality is that you most likely end up with government by coalition, and Parties with very disparate ideas making pacts over certain issues. I'm not convinced that this is a practical solution.
Works reasonably well in most of Europe. :)

Until such time as it doesn't, and said coalitions fall apart. :think:
Or tails wag their dogs, a la Israel. Or even closer to home the Unionist tail dictating to the Conservative dog.
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Reform UK won 2 by-elections in Kent. It’s coming home! :D
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Elon Musk just offered Farage/Reform $100m.

One hundred million dollars! With that he could afford to buy Starmer and his wife an entire wardrobe and tell them to fuck off.

He probably won't be stuffing it into Coutts...
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Screwdriver wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 3:08 pm He probably won't be stuffing it into Coutts...
I imagine if he did the rest of the Reform party might have a few questions...

Maybe they could spend it on 2 days of the NHS :thumbup:
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So, for the people who want electral reform, PR, whatever, this is the way it might happen with about a sixth of current MPs being in talks bout it.
Two things they seem into is PR and removing foreign money from our electoral system
You could show interest in it, although despite Farage claiming he wants this, he wasn't even interested enough to be involved yet.