This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:41 pm Blah, blah, blah.
You do know the election is over?

You won, get over it. :thumbup:
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LOL!! Even flipped 10 counties in Calizuela from Dem to Rep :)
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ay-lawsuit

Elon Musk was sued in a proposed class action on Tuesday by registered voters who signed his petition to support the constitution for a chance to win his $1m-a-day giveaway, and now claim it was a fraud.

The complaint, filed by the Arizona resident Jacqueline McAferty in federal court, said Musk and his America Pac organization falsely induced voters to sign a petition by claiming they would choose winners by chance. In fact, members of the Pac selected the winners, the suit alleges. Musk’s own attorneys said in court that the sweepstakes’ results were not random; they disclosed that the winners were chosen to be spokespeople for the group.

“The $1m recipients are not chosen by chance,” Chris Gober, a lawyer for Musk, said during a hearing in Pennsylvania. “We know exactly who will be announced as the $1m recipient today and tomorrow.” Musk, meanwhile, said at a campaign rally that his Pac would be “awarding $1m randomly to people who have signed the petition”.
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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:05 pm Final count is in, Trump 312, Harris 226. A drubbing.
What is perhaps more interesting from the perspective of statistical anomaly is that of the 16 states that the Democrats did win, 15 of them are "no voter ID required". The only one that did require voter ID was the very closest margin they won by. Those are also the ONLY states which do not require voter ID. Without voter ID it is impossible to prove cheating one way or the other, then again, in ALL of those states, it only went one way!

The other interesting anomaly with this being the most hotly contested election, since ever, is that the Dems missed their last target vote count by a whopping 18 million. So Biden allegedly beat Trump (right at the last moment I like to keep reminding everyone) with 81 million votes. This time Kamala only got 63 million. (forgive me if I might be a bit off with the numbers, several sites quote 15 - 20 million "missing")

I remember at the time (2020) watching the polls which literally jumped at 4am in the morning, overturning Trumps record breaking electoral vote, leaving a massive spike in the votes recorded. A spike all in Biden's favour and in just those swing states where it was needed for the win. I remember thinking, yeah, be great to see the raw data from the voting machines or, maybe they should hang onto those truckloads of ballots that appeared after voting had nominally ended.

What actually happened was all of the ballots were accidentally destroyed - immediately after the count and the Dominion machines were subpoena'd but never actually handed over.

We'll never know** but this time the Republican observers and an army of helpers were tasked with making sure that such antics could not work so easily this time. Suddenly, "poof" 18 million votes disappear. While you might think that's just the ebb and flow of turnout, without the 18 million extra votes Biden found in 2020, the total votes cast suddenly reverts to statistically normal levels for actual population size.

Such data anomalies from the 2020 election are arguably circumstantial evidence especially without the machines/logs, the ballot papers or voter ID. But then, that was part of the plan wasn't it....

Same as last time though, it is difficult to present those data in a compelling way for the average punter. It almost doesn't matter now that Trump is back in office where he should have been for all these years. Back in office with a full deck this time, house and senate.


**never say never. There may yet be a trail and it might lead from Croatia all the way to China. Trump might actually get to the bottom of it, I wouldn't put it past him. If someone cheated me like that, I'd go after them given the chance.
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Fuck me. That is quite extraordinary.


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Some folk are just so fucking experts they won't let it go.

Maybe we should pay homage to their insight?
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Last time you poked that hornets nest you were crying.
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Looks like I spoke too soon. The democrats are going after the last few votes in an effort to steal the house. Massive cheating spree in Arizona.

Well, it looks like a cheat from here. Curious anomaly between votes cast for Trump and those for Kari Lake (they're on the same side!). You would think that a vote for Trump would be a vote of Lake (Senate) but curiously, her "count" falls far short of what you might expect. Plus of course they are determined to prolong the count for as long as possible using the tried and tested Dominion machines - like all the other democrat strongholds. The longer they can delay the counting, the more likely it is to produce a Democrat win. Again, statistically, there is a direct correlation. FFS.

This is getting ridiculous.
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Yorick wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:50 pm Some folk are just so fucking experts they won't let it go.

Maybe we should pay homage to their insight?
Why don't you fuck off to the beach and go stare at some tits.
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Popular vote through the years:
2000-2024
R D
00: 50.5m 51m
04: 62m 59m
08: 60m 69.5m
12: 61m 66m
16: 63m 66m
20: 75m 81m
24: 73m 68m
Can’t help but wonder, where did THIRTEEN MILLION votes disappear to for democrats, if this 2024 election was supposedly THE most consequential election of all time (according to both sides) in this country? If these 13M simply didn’t vote because they didn’t like the Democratic candidate, then how is that you can argue that democracy wasn’t preserved?
The only other logical conclusion is that maybe there weren’t really 13M more voters last time, after all.
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ZRX61 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:29 pm
JamJar wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:56 pm The Covid lockdowns started under trump, Biden was not inaugurated until Jan 2021, a full year into the pandemic.
They were a LOT more draconian under Biden. That twat Tim Walz even set up a hotline to grass up your neighbors.
Lol, let me guess, you think the vaccine was worse under Biden too
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Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:34 am Looks like I spoke too soon. The democrats are going after the last few votes in an effort to steal the house. Massive cheating spree in Arizona.

Well, it looks like a cheat from here. Curious anomaly between votes cast for Trump and those for Kari Lake (they're on the same side!). You would think that a vote for Trump would be a vote of Lake (Senate) but curiously, her "count" falls far short of what you might expect. Plus of course they are determined to prolong the count for as long as possible using the tried and tested Dominion machines - like all the other democrat strongholds. The longer they can delay the counting, the more likely it is to produce a Democrat win. Again, statistically, there is a direct correlation. FFS.

This is getting ridiculous.
It is getting ridiculous, you now think they are trying to steal an election they have conceded :?
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JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:09 am
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:34 am Looks like I spoke too soon. The democrats are going after the last few votes in an effort to steal the house. Massive cheating spree in Arizona.

Well, it looks like a cheat from here. Curious anomaly between votes cast for Trump and those for Kari Lake (they're on the same side!). You would think that a vote for Trump would be a vote of Lake (Senate) but curiously, her "count" falls far short of what you might expect. Plus of course they are determined to prolong the count for as long as possible using the tried and tested Dominion machines - like all the other democrat strongholds. The longer they can delay the counting, the more likely it is to produce a Democrat win. Again, statistically, there is a direct correlation. FFS.

This is getting ridiculous.
It is getting ridiculous, you now think they are trying to steal an election they have conceded :?
So far as I can tell, the result for who has a majority in the house is still in the balance.

By sheer coincidence it happens to be in one of the states where the democrat led ballot office predicted a longer than usual delay before the results would be announced. There is a ton of "evidence" that the same old shenanigan's are being played out as we speak to flip the current status from a Republican win to Democrat. I don't have time to confirm each and every one of those claims so if you want to wade through a pile of steaming shit on X yourself, be my guest.

Without a majority in the House, Trump only has the Presidency and the Senate, the Dems would have control of the House where they would then be able to exert control by sabotage. Just like the last time Trump was in office.
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JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:09 am
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:34 am Looks like I spoke too soon. The democrats are going after the last few votes in an effort to steal the house. Massive cheating spree in Arizona.

Well, it looks like a cheat from here. Curious anomaly between votes cast for Trump and those for Kari Lake (they're on the same side!). You would think that a vote for Trump would be a vote of Lake (Senate) but curiously, her "count" falls far short of what you might expect. Plus of course they are determined to prolong the count for as long as possible using the tried and tested Dominion machines - like all the other democrat strongholds. The longer they can delay the counting, the more likely it is to produce a Democrat win. Again, statistically, there is a direct correlation. FFS.

This is getting ridiculous.
It is getting ridiculous, you now think they are trying to steal an election they have conceded :?
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Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:24 am
JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:09 am
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:34 am Looks like I spoke too soon. The democrats are going after the last few votes in an effort to steal the house. Massive cheating spree in Arizona.

Well, it looks like a cheat from here. Curious anomaly between votes cast for Trump and those for Kari Lake (they're on the same side!). You would think that a vote for Trump would be a vote of Lake (Senate) but curiously, her "count" falls far short of what you might expect. Plus of course they are determined to prolong the count for as long as possible using the tried and tested Dominion machines - like all the other democrat strongholds. The longer they can delay the counting, the more likely it is to produce a Democrat win. Again, statistically, there is a direct correlation. FFS.

This is getting ridiculous.
It is getting ridiculous, you now think they are trying to steal an election they have conceded :?
He knows the truth about everything.
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Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:24 am He knows the truth about everything.
Obviously not but I do have an opinion on things which interest me. We all know what interest you so I have to wonder why you're blundering about in this thread.

For info, on this occasion, I am not wrong. The majority in the House is as yet undecided.
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JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:41 am the-truth-is-out-there_u-l-f9jlah0.jpg
Yeah, haha. So are you suggesting the count is in fact finished and Trump has control of the House and Senate?

Perhaps you are convinced there's "nothing to see here" with the spectacularly convenient "delay" in counting which typically means the count flips from Republican to Democrat. This only ever happens in marginal seats, most often involving Dominion counting machines and a delay always ends up in favour of the Democrat.

After all these years it has been established how these machines are being manipulated - they run a virtual machine inside the real one. Once the hard data have been authenticated (!) the virtual machine is simply wiped from memory, leaving no trace.

They are being managed from a location in Croatia (it is alleged) under the control of Chinese IT staff, have Huawei chipsets (banned by US agencies and EU I believe) and for some unfathomable reason, nothing has ever been done about them. They used Dominion machines in Venezuela and look how that turned out.

You know Trump has been vilified by the mainstream media, hounded by the "justice" system with countless spurious charges, impeached twice, threatened with bankruptcy and seizure of assets. He's been the victim of a hoax Russian collusion scandal (fabricated by Hilary Clinton), removed from the ballot, threatened with jail and when all that failed, shot on the head.

You think those same people wouldn't at least try to manipulate the count?
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Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:59 am
JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:41 am the-truth-is-out-there_u-l-f9jlah0.jpg
Yeah, haha. So are you suggesting the count is in fact finished and Trump has control of the House and Senate?

Perhaps you are convinced there's "nothing to see here" with the spectacularly convenient "delay" in counting which typically means the count flips from Republican to Democrat. This only ever happens in marginal seats, most often involving Dominion counting machines and a delay always ends up in favour of the Democrat.

After all these years it has been established how these machines are being manipulated - they run a virtual machine inside the real one. Once the hard data have been authenticated (!) the virtual machine is simply wiped from memory, leaving no trace.

They are being managed from a location in Croatia (it is alleged) under the control of Chinese IT staff, have Huawei chipsets (banned by US agencies and EU I believe) and for some unfathomable reason, nothing has ever been done about them. They used Dominion machines in Venezuela and look how that turned out.

You know Trump has been vilified by the mainstream media, hounded by the "justice" system with countless spurious charges, impeached twice, threatened with bankruptcy and seizure of assets. He's been the victim of a hoax Russian collusion scandal (fabricated by Hilary Clinton), removed from the ballot, threatened with jail and when all that failed, shot on the head.

You think those same people wouldn't at least try to manipulate the count?
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It seems weird to me that someone would win an unexpected landslide, then all the accusations of cheating would be levelled at the losing side :lol:

Such is the world we live it now :D
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JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:06 am
Screwdriver wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:59 am
JamJar wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:41 am the-truth-is-out-there_u-l-f9jlah0.jpg
Yeah, haha. So are you suggesting the count is in fact finished and Trump has control of the House and Senate?

Perhaps you are convinced there's "nothing to see here" with the spectacularly convenient "delay" in counting which typically means the count flips from Republican to Democrat. This only ever happens in marginal seats, most often involving Dominion counting machines and a delay always ends up in favour of the Democrat.

After all these years it has been established how these machines are being manipulated - they run a virtual machine inside the real one. Once the hard data have been authenticated (!) the virtual machine is simply wiped from memory, leaving no trace.

They are being managed from a location in Croatia (it is alleged) under the control of Chinese IT staff, have Huawei chipsets (banned by US agencies and EU I believe) and for some unfathomable reason, nothing has ever been done about them. They used Dominion machines in Venezuela and look how that turned out.

You know Trump has been vilified by the mainstream media, hounded by the "justice" system with countless spurious charges, impeached twice, threatened with bankruptcy and seizure of assets. He's been the victim of a hoax Russian collusion scandal (fabricated by Hilary Clinton), removed from the ballot, threatened with jail and when all that failed, shot on the head.

You think those same people wouldn't at least try to manipulate the count?
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