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[Horse]

I reckon they were on an execution job with Waldorf

A [now ex-] copper I knew said that David Martin had been in the car shortly before the stop.

Ah, the old , I know a Copper who knows the truth. Are the Guildford Four still innocent ?

At the time, he obviously wasn't in the car. The point I was making - badly - was that it was a cock-up based on the expectation he still was.

Supposedly, the copper in the recent case only knew about the car, not the driver.

[Mr Moofo]

I reckon they were on an execution job with Waldorf

A [now ex-] copper I knew said that David Martin had been in the car shortly before the stop.

Ah, the old , I know a Copper who knows the truth. Are the Guildford Four still innocent ?

Just on the reparations bit. It was African warlords who sold captured “other tribes” to Arab slave traders. Now the plantations created supply and demand but the above slave trade had been going on for 200 years prior with slaves going to Arab and Far Eastern locations.
So I guess everyone will have to pitch in.

[Horse]

Interesting article tracking how misinformation propagates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99v90813j5o

[Cousin Jack]

Reparations is a good idea. £5M to every surviving slave transported on a British ship. Of course not many will have survived this long, but it is the principle that counts.

[cheb]

Discussing reparations is a good thing, it saves us having to look too deeply into slavery that is still happening. Just imagine if nail bars, hand car washes and Turkish Barbers disappeared and general stuff became more expensive.

[Yorick]

In my limited knowledge, many times the folk were enslaved by their own kind, and the Brits (and others) were traders.

Maybe the enslavers should apologise first?

[JackyJoll]

I don’t quite get the principle of getting money in compensation for living in the Caribbean as a twentieth generation local.

Or even for living in Britain as many descendants of slaves do. Some people are actually trying to get here from Africa, without being enslaved, so I hear.

Do you have to look black to get the money, or just have a slave in your family tree?

[Saga Lout]

If we're going to right historical wrongs by giving money to the descendents of those who were wronged, how about money to the Irish for all the injustices they suffered under English rule. (I have at least five Irish great grandparents so I'll qualify. ) How about money to the descendents of mill workers who worked for barely subsistence wages while the mill owners got rich. (My parents and grandparents worked in the mills so I'm sure to be in line for a hand out. ) Maybe we could go back a bit farther and get reparations from the Italians for the atrocities committed by the Romans.

It's only fair, isn't it?

Or how about we pay compensation to the West African countries for destroying their lucrative trans Atlantic slave trade. Must have cost them a fortune, poor things.

Or we could just quote L. P. Hartley: "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

[Cousin Jack]

It's lefty liberal creep innit. 100 years ago the idea would have been laughed at. Today no one is prepared to stand up and say "Piss off". In another 100 years no one will dare question anyone who has ever been wronged or even slightly disadvantaged.

[JackyJoll]

Would black Britishers be pleased to see their tax contributions given to this cause?

[gremlin]

Or we could just quote L. P. Hartley: "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

All the money he made out of his book on fly fishing, he can fuck off for any reparations.

[Saga Lout]

Or we could just quote L. P. Hartley: "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

All the money he made out of his book on fly fishing, he can fuck off for any reparations.

He made a rod for his own back, he's still on the hook for reparations.

[Rockburner]

Interesting article tracking how misinformation propagates.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99v90813j5o

"A lie can run around the world before the truth has got it's boots on."

[Bustaspoke]

I'm looking forward to the claims adverts on the telly.
Were some of your Irish ancestors fked over by the British?.Were your English ancestors fked over by the Normans?
What about people who suffered in more recent times,can we sue Germany for live's ruined in WWII air raids?
What winds me up about slavery reparations is that the Africans & Arabs were rounding up the slaves not the western sailors,why aren't they being asked for reparations ?

[Mussels]

Irish reparation claims are going to be very complicated.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024 ... n-jamaica/

Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica

[Cousin Jack]

What winds me up about slavery reparations is that the Africans & Arabs were rounding up the slaves not the western sailors,why aren't they being asked for reparations ?

Because the Africans have no money, and the Arabs would tell them to piss off.

[Horse]

If the decision is, eventually, that reparations should be paid, couldn't it be paid annually from the international aid budget?

For example:
In 2022, Nigeria was the third largest recipient of UK bilateral country specific ODA, receiving £110 million.
Between 1998 and 2017, the UK committed £2.8 billion in bilateral aid to Ghana.

[Count Steer]

I'm going after the Romans that put the A1 through my ancestor Ethelred 'the Unsteady' Steer's farm.

[Hoonercat]

If the decision is, eventually, that reparations should be paid, couldn't it be paid annually from the international aid budget?

For example:
In 2022, Nigeria was the third largest recipient of UK bilateral country specific ODA, receiving £110 million.
Between 1998 and 2017, the UK committed £2.8 billion in bilateral aid to Ghana.

It might take a while to pay off £18.8 trillion
Though I suppose once it was added to the UK's current debt burden, we could claim the UK to be poorer than most third world countries and ask for that international aid travel-of-direction to be reversed

[Horse]

If the decision is, eventually, that reparations should be paid, couldn't it be paid annually from the international aid budget?

For example:
In 2022, Nigeria was the third largest recipient of UK bilateral country specific ODA, receiving £110 million.
Between 1998 and 2017, the UK committed £2.8 billion in bilateral aid to Ghana.

It might take a while to pay off £18.8 trillion

That timeline would obviously form part of any negotiations. It would be imbecilic to expect it all in a one-off BACS transfer

The UK 2023 ODA budget was £15.37 billion. Possibly 1,000 years might be considered unacceptable?

And, of course, reparations negotiations would include how and where the money was spent. I'd bet that most of it would never leave our shores, instead being used the buy UK goods and services.