Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Anything you like about motorbikes
Jody
Posts: 1714
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:49 am
Location: Biarritz in Summer, Cornwall In Autumn, Courchevel in Winter
Has thanked: 1947 times
Been thanked: 1292 times

Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Jody »

There's a chance of a very tasty bike becoming available to me for not much £

It was written off last week, mainly because the crash bung bent, and marred the frame.

If I bought t, can I just insure it and go ?
User avatar
KungFooBob
Posts: 14196
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
Has thanked: 539 times
Been thanked: 7526 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by KungFooBob »

Depends what category it is.

IIRC it's something along the lines of...

Cat A - Must be scrapped/crushed
Cat B - Must be scrapped, but parts can be sold
Cat S - Needs to be assessed before it can go back on the road
Cat N - Just cosmetic damage
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12166
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9819 times
Been thanked: 10144 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Skub »

KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:13 pm Depends what category it is.

IIRC it's something along the lines of...

Cat A - Must be scrapped/crushed
Cat B - Must be scrapped, but parts can be sold
Cat S - Needs to be assessed before it can go back on the road
Cat N - Just cosmetic damage
Is cat N what used to be cat D?
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
MyLittleStudPony
Posts: 1149
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:28 pm
Has thanked: 614 times
Been thanked: 405 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by MyLittleStudPony »

Isn't there a special category for when someone's done a TWOC on it?

I haven't really paid attention to these things for about 20 years.
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1544 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by wull »

Skub wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:14 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:13 pm Depends what category it is.

IIRC it's something along the lines of...

Cat A - Must be scrapped/crushed
Cat B - Must be scrapped, but parts can be sold
Cat S - Needs to be assessed before it can go back on the road
Cat N - Just cosmetic damage
Is cat N what used to be cat D?

I can’t remember what cat d used to be but back in 2017 or 2018 ( I think ) some fuck nugget reversed in to my partners car when she was at work and dented the door big time and that ended up being a cat n, uneconomical repair but not structurally unsafe or anything like that. So nothing was required and you could keep it on the road etc without having to have it repaired and then checked out.
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12166
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9819 times
Been thanked: 10144 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Skub »

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:29 pm Isn't there a special category for when someone's done a TWOC on it?

I haven't really paid attention to these things for about 20 years.
Yep.

Cat TWOC. :thumbup:
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12166
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9819 times
Been thanked: 10144 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Skub »

wull wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:10 pm I can’t remember what cat d used to be but back in 2017 or 2018 ( I think ) some fuck nugget reversed in to my partners car when she was at work and dented the door big time and that ended up being a cat n, uneconomical repair but not structurally unsafe or anything like that. So nothing was required and you could keep it on the road etc without having to have it repaired and then checked out.
Cat D used to be uneconomical to repair using new parts. My ZZR11 was a cat D,I repaired it with used parts and rode it for 10 years.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1544 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by wull »

So essentially cat n is the same I think, there might be slight variables to it but pretty much the same.
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13942
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15946 times
Been thanked: 10243 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Taipan »

You can get Cat As back on the road if you know how! :silent:
Buckaroo
Posts: 938
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:00 pm
Location: East of West
Has thanked: 734 times
Been thanked: 716 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Buckaroo »

Oooh, pray do tell!!
A_morti
Posts: 755
Joined: Mon May 25, 2020 8:35 am
Location: Malta
Has thanked: 310 times
Been thanked: 568 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by A_morti »

If the frame is damaged in any way, especially if it's an aluminium frame, I would be surprised if it'll be categorised to be allowed back on the road.
User avatar
DefTrap
Posts: 4494
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
Has thanked: 2259 times
Been thanked: 2190 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by DefTrap »

Skub wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:16 pm Cat D used to be uneconomical to repair using new parts. My ZZR11 was a cat D,I repaired it with used parts and rode it for 10 years.
Yeah I've done similar with cars - other than the inconvenience it was relatively easy to turn a tidy profit if the ins. co. bunged you the vehicle back for nowt along with the compo.
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13936
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2550 times
Been thanked: 6241 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

I always thought you couldn't have the vehicle back if you'd had the insurance payout? Or is 'nowt' a placeholder term here for "not much money"? :D I've never tried.
Sadlonelygit
Posts: 951
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:10 pm
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 687 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Sadlonelygit »

My old Fazer was a cat c......needed plastics, tank repair and end can (that's a few grand at Yamaha prices)
Fiesta was storm damaged and had an insurance marker against it (but that was en France).
Just had a friend's mk6 fiesta repaired after it was 'written off' by insurance (wing, bonnet, grill, light, sway bar). She's about £1500 to the good......until she renews!
User avatar
DefTrap
Posts: 4494
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
Has thanked: 2259 times
Been thanked: 2190 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by DefTrap »

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:05 am I always thought you couldn't have the vehicle back if you'd had the insurance payout? Or is 'nowt' a placeholder term here for "not much money"? :D I've never tried.
This was a while ago TBF, no idea if that's still the case. I got my auld Rover620 back on road - the ins. co. deemed it too expensive to repair (two new doors and paintwork) and we agreed that their lowball valuation of the vehicle's worth, plus keeping it was a fair outcome. It was still driveable. I managed to get some passable doors from some bloke's hideous backgarden scrapyard in Oxford for 40 quid and voila.
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13936
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2550 times
Been thanked: 6241 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

My understanding was that they're buying the broken vehicle off you with the payout, so you can't have the money AND the vehicle. They will sell it back to you sometimes though.

That's been my experience both times I've had cars written off.
User avatar
Ditchfinder
Posts: 1123
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:55 am
Has thanked: 620 times
Been thanked: 692 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Ditchfinder »

Yup my Exeo got Cat N for a rear ender earlier this year. Got paid out as Navy blue Exeo tailgates are like a popular childrens toys excrement so paint would have been involved.

As I still had the car as it was driveable they offered to sell it back to me for less than a bag. It would have cost them more to come and pick it up and take it to auction.

As a bonus as it looks rough on the outside nobody in nice shiny cars park too close to me in car parks anymore :banana-dance:
'07 Griso 1100 (for sale), '94 Sprint 900, the scabbiest Himalayan in the country
Sadlonelygit
Posts: 951
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:10 pm
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 687 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Sadlonelygit »

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:42 am My understanding was that they're buying the broken vehicle off you with the payout, so you can't have the money AND the vehicle. They will sell it back to you sometimes though.

That's been my experience both times I've had cars written off.
Offer - xs - buyback=vehicle + £x
Sadlonelygit
Posts: 951
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:10 pm
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 687 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Sadlonelygit »

Ditchfinder wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:53 am Yup my Exeo got Cat N for a rear ender earlier this year.
passat/a4 (6) innit?
Le_Fromage_Grande
Posts: 11233
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:40 pm
Location: The road of many manky motorcycles
Has thanked: 607 times
Been thanked: 4124 times

Re: Can you still put written off bikes back on the road?

Post by Le_Fromage_Grande »

Who determines these bikes can't go back on the road, considering I can build a bike with a frame lashed together in my shed and road register it.