Eurofighter vs F35 dogfight

[Sadlonelygit]

NATO had a 'dogfight' scenario with these 2 bad boys, which tbf is pretty unrealistic as the F35s weapons advantage is BVR.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nato-pi ... ht-2024-10

[Count Steer]

To save bringing Google search to a standstill while everyone searches for BVR....'Beyond Visual Range'.

[KungFooBob]

Old Maverick would have had them both in a decommissioned F14 with no armaments.

[Count Steer]

Old Maverick would have had them both in a decommissioned F14 with no armaments.

He'd gan it up on the back wheel and have 'em on the brakes.

The threat detection and countermeasures systems look ok on the Eurofighter.

Just had a quick read about the planned (Eurofighter replacement?) the New Generation Fighter. It's supposed to be able to deploy 'drone swarms'

[Cousin Jack]

Old Maverick would have had them both in a decommissioned F14 with no armaments.

He'd gan it up on the back wheel and have 'em on the brakes.

The threat detection and countermeasures systems look ok on the Eurofighter.

Just had a quick read about the planned (Eurofighter replacement?) the New Generation Fighter. It's supposed to be able to deploy 'drone swarms'

AFAIK nobody has actually tried 'drone swarms' yet. The US is working on unmanned 'buddy' aircraft, same plane but without a pilot using a mixture of AI and command linkage.

[Horse]

AFAIK nobody has actually tried 'drone swarms' yet. The US is working on unmanned 'buddy' aircraft, same plane but without a pilot using a mixture of AI and command linkage.

Some of the 1,000 drone 'fireworks' displays are impressive



Re the unmanned 'buddy' aircraft, it was reported last week that the Russians had to shoot down (by the manned aircraft) an unmanned 'buddy' drone. They then put a missile into the crash site.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qv3lnqy0vo.amp

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/why-r ... e-ukraine/

[Nordboy]

NATO had a 'dogfight' scenario with these 2 bad boys, which tbf is pretty unrealistic as the F35s weapons advantage is BVR.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nato-pi ... ht-2024-10

It's behind a paywall for me?

[Count Steer]

NATO had a 'dogfight' scenario with these 2 bad boys, which tbf is pretty unrealistic as the F35s weapons advantage is BVR.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nato-pi ... ht-2024-10

It's behind a paywall for me?

Yup. The gist of it is there though. I gather, if it can get close enough to get into an actual dogfight, the Typhoon outmanouevres the F35...not surprising. It may have been part of the 1v1 exercise at Ramstein, they included Rafales, Hornets and all sorts.

Info here (it's 50% ads though, be prepared to scroll).

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/1v1-showd ... ct-high-g/

Ah. This's better. Doesn't give the results though.

https://www.mildenhall.af.mil/News/Arti ... mstein-ab/

[Sadlonelygit]

The french have unveiled a drone to accompany the F5 Rafael.
Guessing skynet will be next!

[Hoonercat]

NATO had a 'dogfight' scenario with these 2 bad boys, which tbf is pretty unrealistic as the F35s weapons advantage is BVR.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nato-pi ... ht-2024-10

The Eurofighter scored a 'kill'. However, the German pilot admitted that had it been a real encounter, he'd have never got close close enough for that kill. The F35 isn't made for dogfights (the US has the F15/16/22's for that). If the F35 finds itself in a dogfight, something has gone drastically wrong.

[demographic]

This is all well and good but which one is best to kill Yemeni goatherders armed with a wickedly sharp piece of watermellon?

[Hoonercat]

This is all well and good but which one is best to kill Yemeni goatherders armed with a wickedly sharp piece of watermellon?

Whichever one makes the best chemtrails, obviously

[MrLongbeard]

This is all well and good but which one is best to kill Yemeni goatherders armed with a wickedly sharp piece of watermellon?

A10, all day every day

[gremlin]

A10? Pfft...Johnny Come Lately.

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[MrLongbeard]

A10? Pfft...Johnny Come Lately.
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Ilyushin? Pfft only 2 x 23mm cannons and 2 x 7.62 guns, practically a knife in a gun fight;

[KungFooBob]

If it's all about the size and number of guns, then I'll go for any version of the AC-130.

[MrLongbeard]

If it's all about the size and number of guns, then I'll go for any version of the AC-130.

For making things go away at ground level, then yeah, not a sexy aircraft though, and a goat farmer in a biplane with a blunderbuss could probably take it out in a straight air fight

[KungFooBob]

How can an airplane fitted with a howitzer not be sexy!

[MrLongbeard]

Good point, I do always enjoy seeing the non tooled up variants when they give low fly bys over where I live, but even with a howitzer its no different from lipstick on a pig.

[gremlin]

Ilyushin? Pfft only 2 x 23mm cannons and 2 x 7.62 guns, practically a knife in a gun fight;

If it's a numbers game:

C. 7,700 Mozzies made

C. 42,000 IL2s

Not sure if there's any still flying. I know they dig them up from Russian bogs and lakes every once in while.