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They could at least try to disguise their silver vote winning dog whistles :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c781m9v4255o
Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch has said maternity pay has "gone too far" and the government needed to interfere less in people's lives.

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She said: “We need to have more personal responsibility - there was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies."
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Kemi's clearly looking back to the 'good old days' when she wasn't even born. Early 70s in fact. Maternity pay was introduced in 1975 by a Labour government.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:53 pm Kemi's clearly looking back to the 'good old days' when she wasn't even born. Early 70s in fact. Maternity pay was introduced in 1975 by a Labour government.
Yeah, and free contraception was introduced in 1974 when the Family Planning service was started. That should have reduced maternity pay. :thumbup:
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I think Rose Duffield should get off the fence and say what she really thinks...

But she makes a lot of telling points in her resignation letter. Doubt it will have much effect though.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:04 pm I think Rose Duffield should get off the fence and say what she really thinks...

But she makes a lot of telling points in her resignation letter. Doubt it will have much effect though.
Gotta admire integrity though. Not something you often see in politics. :thumbup:
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Crikey, a Labour politician with principles. Can't be many of those left....
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Screwdriver wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:57 am Crikey, a politician with principles. Can't be many of those left....
Fixed it for you. :)
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Saga Lout wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:19 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:57 am Crikey, a human with principles. Can't be many of those left....
Fixed it for you. :)
Fixed it for you too.
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cheb wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:30 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:19 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:57 am Crikey, a human with principles. Can't be many of those left....
Fixed it for you. :)
Fixed it for you too.
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I'd like to be in a position to know how much my principles are worth in monetary terms. Probably less than I'd like.
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She claims to have resigned because of the winter fuel payment being lessened for so.e people and ending the two child benefit cap, which is strange cos she wasnt so bothered that she felt like voting on those issues.
Yeah, principles eh?

Methinks there's another reason she's not .entioned.
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They might have withdrawn the whip if she'd voted against the government, then she wouldn't be able to represent Labour.

Oh...wait a sec....
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:22 pm They might have withdrawn the whip if she'd voted against the government, then she wouldn't be able to represent Labour.

Oh...wait a sec....
I think she's playing the long game, has ambitions and knows the current leadership aren't going to be around long.
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Mussels wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:32 pm I think she's playing the long game, has ambitions and knows the current leadership aren't going to be around long.
The govt has a working majority 0f 166, meaning that at least 83 Labour MPs would need to vote against the govt to trigger any kind of no-confidence vote. Do you really think this is likely? I'd say the current leadership will be in place until the next time Parliament is dissolved. Starmer has a bigger majority than even Blair achieved.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:49 am
Mussels wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:32 pm I think she's playing the long game, has ambitions and knows the current leadership aren't going to be around long.
The govt has a working majority 0f 166, meaning that at least 83 Labour MPs would need to vote against the govt to trigger any kind of no-confidence vote. Do you really think this is likely? I'd say the current leadership will be in place until the next time Parliament is dissolved. Starmer has a bigger majority than even Blair achieved.
This is doing the rounds in right wing circles that Starmer will be out by the end of the week, the only thing that changes is the reason, sometimes it's freezing grannies, then it was because he's gay :wtf: and now it's because he has an illicit lovechild lol.
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You knew the right wing press (i.e. nearly all of them) would be in a frenzy trying to discredit Starmer et al by any means possible. It was just so predictable.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:49 am You knew the right wing press (i.e. nearly all of them) would be in a frenzy trying to discredit Starmer et al by any means possible. It was just so predictable.
Funny that they weren't bothered, "it doesn't matter", "let him get on with the job" when it was Boris. Numerous lovechilders. "Picaninies". "Post-box" muslims. All that jazz.

They won, get over it. ;)
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Tis the ying/yang of politics for sure, but there is many a Labour voter and trade union beyond angry at the winter fuel issue and they are bigger critics than the Tories!
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Taipan wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:57 pm Tis the ying/yang of politics for sure, but there is many a Labour voter and trade union beyond angry at the winter fuel issue and they are bigger critics than the Tories!
That's what I was thinking of more than speculation on X. The hypocracy of him, Rayner and Reeves is clear. They have been receiving gifts that any private company would call bribery, both for the person on the receiving and and those donating to politically exposed persons.