Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

[mangocrazy]

I hasten to add I'm not dissing on trucks per se, just the Cybertruck in particular. For my usage a van wins every time, but for other folks a truck is what they need and want.

Just not a Cybertruck...

[MrLongbeard]

If I had to have an electric truck it'd be a Rivian, the cybertruck is an exercise in letting a five year old get access to the design computer

[demographic]

If I had to have an electric truck it'd be a Rivian, the cybertruck is an exercise in letting a five year old get access to the design computer

Aye, mebbe shouldn't let Musk loose with the Crayolas after he's been on the coke*, there are far less spazzy lecky pickups out there.


*Alllegedly.

[Taipan]

If I had to have an electric truck it'd be a Rivian, the cybertruck is an exercise in letting a five year old get access to the design computer

It might win in the looks stakes but it doesn't in the reliability ones. Its a bit of a dog and I don't think Rivian have even turned a profit yet? So, unreliable and losing money and the US EV market allegedly in decline, that doesn't bode well for Rivian...

[MrLongbeard]

If I had to have an electric truck it'd be a Rivian, the cybertruck is an exercise in letting a five year old get access to the design computer

It might win in the looks stakes but it doesn't in the reliability ones. Its a bit of a dog and I don't think Rivian have even turned a profit yet? So, unreliable and losing money and the US EV market allegedly in decline, that doesn't bode well for Rivian...

It took Tesla 17 years to show a profit..... and then that was questionable.
And whilst Rivian was founded way back in 2009 their first car was only released in 2021, give 'em 5 minutes and they'll get things sorted, or maybe not if the market declines further.

[Mr. Dazzle]

There's only one stainless steel bodied EV worth having. One point twenty one jiggawatts!



https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-dri ... view/48986

BTW we make a profit selling leccy motors for EVs. Just It's a new experience for us.

[ZRX61]

It's now come to light that out here in the Mojave, the glue holding the panels on a Cybertruck becomes somewhat soft & the meth heads can peel them off to weigh in for scrap... which is also what is happening to the copper wiring in the Tesla chargers.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Loads of wiring is moving to Ally now, mostly 'cause it cheaper and lighter in some contexts. Knock on effect of being less stealy I suppose. Problem is that it's more brittle and doesn't like being bent back and forth, like you know, a cable does

It's common to braid annoying other materials in with copper in some contexts (phone lines in the 3rd world was always the example) to make the ball ache of separating out the copper too much hassle.

[Count Steer]

Loads of wiring is moving to Ally now, mostly 'cause it cheaper and lighter in some contexts. Knock on effect of being less stealy I suppose. Problem is that it's more brittle and doesn't like being bent back and forth, like you know, a cable does

It's common to braid annoying other materials in with copper in some contexts (phone lines in the 3rd world was always the example) to make the ball ache of separating out the copper too much hassle.

BT experimented with aluminium wires for a period. I think it wasn't brittleness that meant they had to remove it some years later but (I was told) problems where it was connected. Oxidation or Cu/Al interacting or summat). Our previous place had connection speed problems due to it. Less of an issue with voice - just a crackly line - but it didn't like internetty stuff.

[Pirahna]

BT experimented with aluminium wires for a period. I think it wasn't brittleness that meant they had to remove it some years later but (I was told) problems where it was connected. Oxidation or Cu/Al interacting or summat). Our previous place had connection speed problems due to it. Less of an issue with voice - just a crackly line - but it didn't like internetty stuff.

Did you know that back in the 80's BT were planning to replace all the copper lines with fibre, they were, at that time, the world leaders in fibre tech. Thatcher thought that it would give BT an unfair advantage in the marketplace and stopped the project, the fibre technology was sold off to somewhere in asia.

[Mr. Dazzle]

BT experimented with aluminium wires for a period. I think it wasn't brittleness that meant they had to remove it some years later but (I was told) problems where it was connected. Oxidation or Cu/Al interacting or summat). Our previous place had connection speed problems due to it. Less of an issue with voice - just a crackly line - but it didn't like internetty stuff.

Ally has superior thermal and electrical conductivity by unit weight. The fact that it has higher absolute resistance though is actually helpful in some contexts, for high frequency power (like you get in a fast EV motor) that reduces certain losses.

[Mr. Dazzle]

the fibre technology was sold off to somewhere in asia.

Lithium Ion batteries, like you get in every EV pretty much, were invented in the UK by a team lead by (no kidding) Prof. Goodenough at Oxford Uni.

It was Nissan who actually ran with 'em though.

Standard story

[Count Steer]

BT experimented with aluminium wires for a period. I think it wasn't brittleness that meant they had to remove it some years later but (I was told) problems where it was connected. Oxidation or Cu/Al interacting or summat). Our previous place had connection speed problems due to it. Less of an issue with voice - just a crackly line - but it didn't like internetty stuff.

Did you know that back in the 80's BT were planning to replace all the copper lines with fibre, they were, at that time, the world leaders in fibre tech. Thatcher thought that it would give BT an unfair advantage in the marketplace and stopped the project, the fibre technology was sold off to somewhere in asia.

Was that why the cable TV companies dug up all the roads and pavements in the 80s? Wonder what happened to all that infrastructure - I assume somebody is using it. Virgin?

[mangocrazy]

In the early/mid 90s NTL (as then was) dug up all the streets in my bit of Stafford and installed fibre to the premises (FTTP) to which I subscribed. That then morphed into Virgin Media about 10 years later. In 2000 I moved to Sheffield, where I only had a slow and unreliable copper connection until Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) became a Thing about 10 years ago.

[Horse]

Was that why the cable TV companies dug up all the roads and pavements in the 80s? Wonder what happened to all that infrastructure - I assume somebody is using it. Virgin?

It was Comtel around here.

Must have been an incredible infrastructure investment.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/66396 ... 550m-deal/

[KungFooBob]

I've just driven my first leccy car.

Drove my FD to Kia in his Tesla Model 3 to collect his new EV9.

It was alright, but I think he had the regen on max as it was one pedal driving.

When I got back to the office I had to ask the SD how to turn the thing off and lock it as I wasn't provided any instructions!

Driving back on my own I gave it a bit of boot on the bypass.

I can see why all Tesla drivers drive like pricks now.

[ZRX61]

We had a big rig leaving the Port of LA this evening with a container full of EV batteries. It got in a wreck & over turned on the bridge to the port. FD showed up just in time for the batteries to start exploding & they're now just watching from 1/4 mile away. Port access is shut down until it all burns out. They're saying it could be two days.

[mangocrazy]

We had a big rig leaving the Port of LA this evening with a container full of EV batteries. It got in a wreck & over turned on the bridge to the port. FD showed up just in time for the batteries to start exploding & they're now just watching from 1/4 mile away. Port access is shut down until it all burns out. They're saying it could be two days.

This the one?






https://agogs.sk/en/major-fire-erupts-a ... san-pedro/

[MrLongbeard]

Are they getting ex grand theft developers to make the AI photos for news stories now

The reality is a little disappointing when compared to fake images

[Cousin Jack]

BT experimented with aluminium wires for a period. I think it wasn't brittleness that meant they had to remove it some years later but (I was told) problems where it was connected. Oxidation or Cu/Al interacting or summat). Our previous place had connection speed problems due to it. Less of an issue with voice - just a crackly line - but it didn't like internetty stuff.

Did you know that back in the 80's BT were planning to replace all the copper lines with fibre, they were, at that time, the world leaders in fibre tech. Thatcher thought that it would give BT an unfair advantage in the marketplace and stopped the project, the fibre technology was sold off to somewhere in asia.

I worked alongside the guy who was doing the cost modeling for Fibre to the Cab v Fibre to the Kerb v Fibre to the House. The 'last mile' , Cab to House was BTs ace card, very expensive to replicate. If we had done FTH back then BT would not exist any more.