In todays news...

Current affairs, Politics, News.
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13477
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2609 times
Been thanked: 6011 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

I'd be anxious too if I were a young(er ;) ) person just joining the world of work these days!

Said it loads of times, but I'm saving in my pension etc. on teh assumption I'll get nothing from the state. I probably will get something, but the figures we have now are totally unsustainable. I also save a load extra in long term for Baby D because I suspect she's gonna be in the shit when she wants to buy a house etc. in ~20 years time.
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:03 am Most people seem to assume that they can live for today, and if it all goes tits up the state will provide.
That's mostly 'cause it's true :lol:

There have been changes though, workplace pensions are now the default for example. Retirement age is creeping up, as is the age at which you can draw from your private pension.
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13250
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15597 times
Been thanked: 9847 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Taipan »

Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:03 am The tide IS turning. For way to long the UK has overpaid itself in benefits (including Pension Credit and Winter Fuel). The next 5 years will need to be hard, if they aren't, and the bleeding heart brigade get their way, the following decades will be absolutely brutal.

I was taught, and I taught my daughter, to save for the future, and only borrow as much as you can deal with in Plan B. Most people seem to assume that they can live for today, and if it all goes tits up the state will provide.
I kinda get that for todays pensioners. They came from an era when we had industries and many were factory workers working for a modest wage and living in council houses with reasonable rents and in the main, the state pension supported that, at least for the most of the working classes.

But things have changed dramatically and I will always thank Thatcher for encouraging home buying. Incredible to think I was mortgage free in my 50s and will never be beholding to private landlords and their vicious rents. It's why we've made sure our kids get on the property ladder too and focus on private pensions for their retirement, as like Dazzle says, i'm not sure the state pension will be anything much, if at all, in later years..
User avatar
Count Steer
Posts: 11412
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:59 pm
Has thanked: 6261 times
Been thanked: 4611 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Count Steer »

Taipan wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:58 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:03 am The tide IS turning. For way to long the UK has overpaid itself in benefits (including Pension Credit and Winter Fuel). The next 5 years will need to be hard, if they aren't, and the bleeding heart brigade get their way, the following decades will be absolutely brutal.

I was taught, and I taught my daughter, to save for the future, and only borrow as much as you can deal with in Plan B. Most people seem to assume that they can live for today, and if it all goes tits up the state will provide.
I kinda get that for todays pensioners. They came from an era when we had industries and many were factory workers working for a modest wage and living in council houses with reasonable rents and in the main, the state pension supported that, at least for the most of the working classes.
It wasn't just council houses. There was a relatively healthy rental sector - with rents that actually allowed you to live and save a deposit on your first purchased house. Some countries still have a functioning rental market inc some of the larger European ones. Our economy seems to have been based on driving up property prices and making homes into just investment opportunities.

The genie is out of the bottle now though, it'll take something catastrophic to change things.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one
.
Voltaire
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13477
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2609 times
Been thanked: 6011 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

S'this little beauty, innit.

In a roundabout sort of way, this is why I save loads of money for Baby D's nominal first house. I've been fortunate with how house prices fell and how the value of my home has grown and therefore allowed me to get better LTV on my mortgage. I can't really repay anyone for that luck, but I can pay it forward to my Daughter.

Image
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13250
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15597 times
Been thanked: 9847 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Taipan »

Count Steer wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:22 am
Taipan wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:58 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:03 am The tide IS turning. For way to long the UK has overpaid itself in benefits (including Pension Credit and Winter Fuel). The next 5 years will need to be hard, if they aren't, and the bleeding heart brigade get their way, the following decades will be absolutely brutal.

I was taught, and I taught my daughter, to save for the future, and only borrow as much as you can deal with in Plan B. Most people seem to assume that they can live for today, and if it all goes tits up the state will provide.
I kinda get that for todays pensioners. They came from an era when we had industries and many were factory workers working for a modest wage and living in council houses with reasonable rents and in the main, the state pension supported that, at least for the most of the working classes.
It wasn't just council houses. There was a relatively healthy rental sector - with rents that actually allowed you to live and save a deposit on your first purchased house. Some countries still have a functioning rental market inc some of the larger European ones. Our economy seems to have been based on driving up property prices and making homes into just investment opportunities.

The genie is out of the bottle now though, it'll take something catastrophic to change things.

Absolutely and the building societies and banks were the architects of this. Back when I was first buying, BSs & banks lent 1 or 1.5 times your salary and if there was a second person, .5 of theirs. This just grew and grew to fit the lending needed to drive prices up and up. With all the self cert mortgages back then it didn't take a genius to realise we were pretty much building on sand.

My daughter has just bought a £360k house with her other half and my son a £175k flat on his own. The amount of money they spend on mortgages and household bills is a massively high proportion of their wages compared to back when I was first buying. I really do feel sorry youngsters today when want to try and crack on in life. At least they'll get some rewards from our estate when we go, assuming we haven't had to cash it all in for failing health and private health care...
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13250
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15597 times
Been thanked: 9847 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Taipan »

Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:37 pm
ZRX61 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:54 pm More than a little awkward....

https://notrickszone.com/2024/09/10/sat ... ion-trend/
Is it right that TN passed a law to ban all that and they now have clear blue skies?
They did!
BBC wrote:Tennessee lawmakers have passed a bill banning the release of airborne chemicals that critics say is inspired by "chemtrails" conspiracy theories.

The bill forbids "intentional injection, release, or dispersion" of chemicals into the air.

It doesn't explicitly mention chemtrails, which conspiracy theorists believe are poisons spread by planes.

Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".

The Republican-sponsored bill passed along party lines on Monday. If it is signed by Tennessee's governor, Republican Bill Lee, it will go into effect on 1 July.

The bill's backers were spurred on by a government report released last year on solar geoengineering, which is the idea of cooling the planet by reflecting sunlight back into space. The White House, though, has said that there are no plans "to establish a comprehensive research programme focused on solar radiation modification."

Several witnesses who testified before the Tennessee legislature cited debunked conspiracy theories or speculated about secret government geoengineering programmes, according to Scott Banbury, conservation director of the state's branch of the Sierra Club, an environmental organisation.

Their claims were troubling, he said.

"As a serious environmental organisation, if what was in the bill was actually going on we would be calling for a stop to it," he said. "It's not happening."

Geoengineering, weather modification and 'chemtrails'
The legislation focuses on geoengineering, a very broad category which includes mostly theoretical large-scale action to mitigate climate change.

Geoengineering is controversial even among legitimate climate scientists, because of uncertainty around its usefulness and the possibility of unintended outcomes.

Planet-wide climate engineering is distinct from more routine weather modification, such as cloud seeding, which increases rainfall over specific areas and is used in several US states.

"Chemtrails", meanwhile, is a separate, pseudoscientific idea that governments or corporations are spraying chemicals from planes to kill, control or poison people.

Conspiracy theorists point to white plumes of water vapour trailing behind passenger aeroplanes, commonly called contrails, as proof of sinister and secret plots, but lack evidence for their claims.

The most common claim of proof is "simply that aircraft contrails look 'different', without any comparative analysis," according to a report from a Harvard geoengineering group.

"This as convincing as saying that alien beings walk among us in disguise as people because some people act very strangely," it said.

In recent decades speculation about chemtrails has risen as the number of airline flights - and thus the number of contrails - has surged.

In the debate over the Tennessee bill, lawmakers and witnesses cited a range of both reliable and debunked facts about geoengineering and weather modification, and at least one witness said she believed the White House was engaged in climate experiments but could not provide definitive proof.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68716894
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16276
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10108 times
Been thanked: 6649 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yorick »

I'm all for equality and live and let live. But this is bonkers. A bloke in charge of women's race centre.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo
Buckaroo
Posts: 843
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:00 pm
Location: East of West
Has thanked: 682 times
Been thanked: 642 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Buckaroo »

Yorick wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:47 pm I'm all for equality and live and let live. But this is bonkers. A bloke in charge of women's race centre.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo
Typical bloke.....makes decisions with her dick, not brains. Add sex to the discussion and that's it, game over. :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Mussels
Posts: 4383
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 851 times
Been thanked: 1225 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

You'd think somewhere with the country's top plod gathered together would be safe. :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx6xvvn25xo
BBC wrote:Policing Minister Dame Diana Johnson had her purse stolen from the hotel where she gave a speech at a conference for senior police officers on Tuesday.
Saga Lout
Posts: 1736
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 564 times
Been thanked: 715 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Saga Lout »

Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:50 pm You'd think somewhere with the country's top plod gathered together would be safe. :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx6xvvn25xo
BBC wrote:Policing Minister Dame Diana Johnson had her purse stolen from the hotel where she gave a speech at a conference for senior police officers on Tuesday.
But they'd checked everybody's social media accounts for hate crimes. ;)
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13477
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2609 times
Been thanked: 6011 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:50 pm You'd think somewhere with the country's top plod gathered together would be safe. :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx6xvvn25xo
BBC wrote:Policing Minister Dame Diana Johnson had her purse stolen from the hotel where she gave a speech at a conference for senior police officers on Tuesday.
Perfect double bluff! They'd never expect anyone to be brazen enough so they let their gaurd down.

or perhaps more likely the crim didn't even realise the conference was going on
User avatar
Yambo
Posts: 2448
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:08 pm
Location: Self Isolating
Has thanked: 614 times
Been thanked: 1632 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yambo »

Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:50 pm You'd think somewhere with the country's top plod gathered together would be safe. :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx6xvvn25xo
BBC wrote:Labour's mission "is to restore respect for the rule of law on British streets, including restoring respect for the police, which has sadly been eroded over many years," she said.
Respect for the police has been eroded partly because of previous governments policies but also because the police have been politicised and because they'd rather chase people for upsetting snowflakes on social media than going out and catching real criminals.

I don't think that Starmers first few weeks in No 10 has done very much to change the public's perception.
User avatar
Pirahna
Posts: 1857
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:31 pm
Has thanked: 1772 times
Been thanked: 1104 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Pirahna »

More Lucy Letby news. Seems concerns were raised about a doctor but the records of doctors shifts were deleted.

"Leaked documents reveal that neonatal unit manager Eirian Powell and lead consultant Dr Stephen Brearey created a staffing chart for unexpected deaths and collapses. The chart included both nurses and doctors on duty during incidents. However, Powell was alarmed to discover that when the chart reached Alison Kelly, executive director of nursing, the column listing doctors had been deleted"

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/staf ... 82133.html
Mussels
Posts: 4383
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 851 times
Been thanked: 1225 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

BBC states the most obvious thing I've seen in ages.
BBC News wrote:The BBC’s director general Tim Davie said he can’t see Huw Edwards working at the corporation again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2477kp0epo
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6477
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2318 times
Been thanked: 3372 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by mangocrazy »

Mussels wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:30 pm BBC states the most obvious thing I've seen in ages.
BBC News wrote:The BBC’s director general Tim Davie said he can’t see Huw Edwards working at the corporation again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2477kp0epo
No shit, Sherlock? Straight from the department of the bleedin' obvious...
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
User avatar
MingtheMerciless
Posts: 3456
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:42 am
Location: Scarfolk on Sea
Has thanked: 2911 times
Been thanked: 1846 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by MingtheMerciless »

Just scrap the bloody things and move onto something more reliable and safer to fly........
https://theaviationist.com/2024/09/19/a ... v-22-fire/
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5606
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 775 times
Been thanked: 4512 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

The Daily Star's new nickname for Sir Kier Starmer:

Free Gear Kier.

:lol:
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5606
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 775 times
Been thanked: 4512 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

BBC News - Notting Hill Carnival is 'poorly run' - Met chief
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c77xjv11lm8o


So as well as getting a bit stabby (mind you, only two murders this year, so good work Carnival Ltd), looks like the Met are worrying about it getting a bit crushy as well.

Still, looks like the organisers and the Met are working in perfect harmony, so roll on next year. 👌
Last edited by gremlin on Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13250
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15597 times
Been thanked: 9847 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Taipan »

Starmer is certainly gaining some great and just monikers! :D He seems to be out to top every criticism he's ever made at the Tories! :wtf: I don't think i've ever seen such blatant hypocrisy! :wtf:
Mussels
Posts: 4383
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 851 times
Been thanked: 1225 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

Taipan wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:46 pm Starmer is certainly gaining some great and just monikers! :D He seems to be out to top every criticism he's ever made at the Tories! :wtf: I don't think i've ever seen such blatant hypocrisy! :wtf:
Giving and taking bribes seems so natural to him that he can't stop, makes me wonder about the CPS and how they decide which celebrities to ignore.