This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Current affairs, Politics, News.
Mussels
Posts: 4428
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 830 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Mussels »

Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:28 am
DefTrap wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:39 am Interesting documentary about Trump last night
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/tru ... -be-scared
On Channel 4!? :wtf: That's like having Tommy Robinson representing BLM! :D
It's never going to be neutral on there. He was president before and the sky didn't fall in, why the panic now?
User avatar
DefTrap
Posts: 4457
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
Has thanked: 2237 times
Been thanked: 2162 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by DefTrap »

Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:28 am On Channel 4!? :wtf: That's like having Tommy Robinson representing BLM! :D
Apart from the unfortunate programme title (and why should YouTube channels have all the fun? ;) ) it was actually quite thought provoking.
Some of the opinion from both sides was rather extreme I thought. So the glee and fear was balanced in equal measure. As per above, if we learnt one thing from Trump's previous presidency, then almost certainly some of his extreme claims about "what he will do on day one" won't happen, and similarly some of the opposition claims that he would authorise mass deportation, amonsgt other things, also seem quite unlikely. Most likely he would do more vague babbling, do his Statesman Face a lot when it the company of other world leaders, and drag his poor sad-looking missus around.

The overall impression was that he's an erratic and unprepared bull-in-a-china-shop President, nothing we didn't know already. Quite similar to Boris, and we all know how that went.
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13794
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15813 times
Been thanked: 10170 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Taipan »

DefTrap wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:57 am
Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:28 am On Channel 4!? :wtf: That's like having Tommy Robinson representing BLM! :D
Apart from the unfortunate programme title (and why should YouTube channels have all the fun? ;) ) it was actually quite thought provoking.
Some of the opinion from both sides was rather extreme I thought. So the glee and fear was balanced in equal measure. As per above, if we learnt one thing from Trump's previous presidency, then almost certainly some of his extreme claims about "what he will do on day one" won't happen, and similarly some of the opposition claims that he would authorise mass deportation, amonsgt other things, also seem quite unlikely. Most likely he would do more vague babbling, do his Statesman Face a lot when it the company of other world leaders, and drag his poor sad-looking missus around.

The overall impression was that he's an erratic and unprepared bull-in-a-china-shop President, nothing we didn't know already. Quite similar to Boris, and we all know how that went.
As pro Trump KT Macfarlnd put it, he's a big picture guy and leaves the underlings to sort out the details. I get that about Trump and it ties in with what the heavily disgruntled and anti-Trump John Bolton saying Trumps decisions are like neuron flashes because he doesn't think beyond the moment! Because Trump only suits Trump, his ideas he has for the general well being of America will be his, as he isn't really led by others such as donors etc. So his narcissism and ideas run in parallel. He really believes he will MAGA!
Buckaroo
Posts: 914
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:00 pm
Location: East of West
Has thanked: 721 times
Been thanked: 694 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Buckaroo »

He's definitely a 'big picture' guy.

Here's a cat.....cats go meoow
Here's a dog.....dogs bark
Oh look, it's an old orange baby....he whines a lot!!!

Yeah, definitely 'big picture'
User avatar
Screwdriver
Posts: 2125
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my hat...
Has thanked: 253 times
Been thanked: 735 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Screwdriver »

Buckaroo wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:47 pm He's definitely a 'big picture' guy.

Here's a cat.....cats go meoow
Here's a dog.....dogs bark
Oh look, it's an old orange baby....he whines a lot!!!

Yeah, definitely 'big picture'
Sounds exactly like Kamala Harris to be honest...

"Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that's wrong."

Except that quote isn't made up, nor is it aimed at five year olds!
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
User avatar
ZRX61
Posts: 5096
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:05 pm
Location: Solar Blight Valley
Has thanked: 1481 times
Been thanked: 1392 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by ZRX61 »

Harris finally posted her policies on her website... Which was just a cut & paste from Biden's website including the line about re-electing Joe Biden.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16663
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10205 times
Been thanked: 6859 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Yorick »

ZRX61 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:41 pm Harris finally posted her policies on her website... Which was just a cut & paste from Biden's website including the line about re-electing Joe Biden.
Being pedantic, it was copy & paste ;)😉

As you were :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13852
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2544 times
Been thanked: 6196 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:48 pm
ZRX61 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:41 pm Harris finally posted her policies on her website... Which was just a cut & paste from Biden's website including the line about re-electing Joe Biden.
Being pedantic, it was copy & paste ;)😉

As you were :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Being extra pedantic it was actually the website code they C+Pd :obscene-birdiedoublered:

So this isn't "Harris has no policies" but "Harris has lazy IT" :lol:
User avatar
DefTrap
Posts: 4457
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
Has thanked: 2237 times
Been thanked: 2162 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by DefTrap »

Harris is in charge of her own IT? Skillz.
demographic
Posts: 3015
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:30 pm
Location: Less that 50 miles away from Moscow, but which one?
Has thanked: 1337 times
Been thanked: 1703 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by demographic »

It's starting to look like the basic premis of this entire thread is flawed.
As each campaign progresses Trump is losing his vote share. The longer it goes on the more he loses. It's not totally clear cut and there's so.e room for change.
This from the commie leftist rag, the Financial Times. Caution, contains some numbers.
https://ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/polls/
User avatar
wheelnut
Posts: 2198
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:36 pm
Has thanked: 901 times
Been thanked: 983 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by wheelnut »

demographic wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:34 pm It's starting to look like the basic premis of this entire thread is flawed.
As each campaign progresses Trump is losing his vote share. The longer it goes on the more he loses. It's not totally clear cut and there's so.e room for change.
This from the commie leftist rag, the Financial Times. Caution, contains some numbers.
https://ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/polls/
I’m not sure you’ve read that right Demo. That doesn’t show Harris in the lead, it shows the EC without the key swing states.

I think it’s too close to call personally,
User avatar
ZRX61
Posts: 5096
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:05 pm
Location: Solar Blight Valley
Has thanked: 1481 times
Been thanked: 1392 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by ZRX61 »

demographic wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:34 pm It's starting to look like the basic premis of this entire thread is flawed.
As each campaign progresses Trump is losing his vote share. The longer it goes on the more he loses. It's not totally clear cut and there's so.e room for change.
This from the commie leftist rag, the Financial Times. Caution, contains some numbers.
https://ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/polls/
The exact opposite of what is being reported in the US... but we still have the same fucking clueless pollsters who claimed Clinton was going to thrash Trump in a landslide...
I think what's going to happen is they will keep counting votes until well into December to give Harris the win.

We have the debate in a few hours, I won't be watching any of it. I'll just watch the new reports later to see which one fucked up more than the other.
Saga Lout
Posts: 1803
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 563 times
Been thanked: 739 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Saga Lout »

DefTrap wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:17 pm Harris is in charge of her own IT? Skillz.
Well, she's in charge of her campaign (allegedly). Where do YOU think the buck stops?
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6796
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2382 times
Been thanked: 3570 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by mangocrazy »

Saga Lout wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:06 pm
DefTrap wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:17 pm Harris is in charge of her own IT? Skillz.
Well, she's in charge of her campaign (allegedly). Where do YOU think the buck stops?
So when an IT glitch brings down a company website it's clearly the CEO that's made an unwise coding or parameter change?
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
Saga Lout
Posts: 1803
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 563 times
Been thanked: 739 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Saga Lout »

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:25 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:06 pm
DefTrap wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:17 pm Harris is in charge of her own IT? Skillz.
Well, she's in charge of her campaign (allegedly). Where do YOU think the buck stops?
So when an IT glitch brings down a company website it's clearly the CEO that's made an unwise coding or parameter change?
No.

But if the CEO says "Hey, we're getting some flak about our mission statement, just copy and paste the old shit from the last CEO to keep the buggers happy." Yes, he is to blame.
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6796
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2382 times
Been thanked: 3570 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by mangocrazy »

Saga Lout wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:39 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:25 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:06 pm

Well, she's in charge of her campaign (allegedly). Where do YOU think the buck stops?
So when an IT glitch brings down a company website it's clearly the CEO that's made an unwise coding or parameter change?
No.

But if the CEO says "Hey, we're getting some flak about our mission statement, just copy and paste the old shit from the last CEO to keep the buggers happy." Yes, he is to blame.
Do you actually think that a Presidential candidate gets involved in the nuts and bolts of website maintenance? There would be multiple levels of management between Harris and whichever clueless sap actually did the copy and paste. One or more levels of management (as well as the clueless sap) will be having squeaky bum time about now.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
User avatar
Screwdriver
Posts: 2125
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my hat...
Has thanked: 253 times
Been thanked: 735 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Screwdriver »

I am fully expecting it to be an unmitigated disaster for Harris.

She is as dumb as a brick and there's no way she will be able to hide that no matter how helpful the pre prepared questions they feed her.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
Saga Lout
Posts: 1803
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 563 times
Been thanked: 739 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Saga Lout »

mangocrazy wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:43 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:39 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:25 pm

So when an IT glitch brings down a company website it's clearly the CEO that's made an unwise coding or parameter change?
No.

But if the CEO says "Hey, we're getting some flak about our mission statement, just copy and paste the old shit from the last CEO to keep the buggers happy." Yes, he is to blame.
Do you actually think that a Presidential candidate gets involved in the nuts and bolts of website maintenance? There would be multiple levels of management between Harris and whichever clueless sap actually did the copy and paste. One or more levels of management (as well as the clueless sap) will be having squeaky bum time about now.
Well, she wants to be president, here's a former president showing how it's done
Image
At the recreation of the Truman Oval Office at the Truman Library in 1959, former President Truman poses by his old desk which has the famous "The Buck Stops Here" sign.
User avatar
ZRX61
Posts: 5096
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:05 pm
Location: Solar Blight Valley
Has thanked: 1481 times
Been thanked: 1392 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by ZRX61 »

Trump told Kamala to end the debate, wake up Biden and tell him to do his job. LOL!!!

Kamala Harris actually said that January 6th was the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war…The day before 9/11.
User avatar
Screwdriver
Posts: 2125
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my hat...
Has thanked: 253 times
Been thanked: 735 times

Re: This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

Post by Screwdriver »

Not sure if the "result" of this stage managed "debate" is as cut and dried as I thought it would be.

Kamala was certainly well prepared, as were the hosts, clearly on her side and clearly anti Trump.

It will be a disaster for the world if whoever is running the Biden/Harris administration is allowed to continue...
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato