LCR Suzuki GSX-S100 GX vs BMW S1000XR...

[mboy]

A lot closer than I was expecting to be honest! I know the Suzuki is Chopsy's long term loaner bike for the year, but he's spent a lot of time on both bikes, and I was expecting a lot of "the Suzuki is good, but..." excuses with the conclusion that despite costing a load more, that everyone should just buy the BMW...

We all know Suzuki make great engines and gearboxes and bikes with superb front end feel, seems their first go at electronic suspension has knocked it out of the park though!

[Skub]

232kgs weight .

£14k is now a cheap bike?

Fat bois eat bhp.

I found that pair hard to listen to. Maybe just me.

[Mr Moofo]

A lot closer than I was expecting to be honest! I know the Suzuki is Chopsy's long term loaner bike for the year, but he's spent a lot of time on both bikes, and I was expecting a lot of "the Suzuki is good, but..." excuses with the conclusion that despite costing a load more, that everyone should just buy the BMW...

We all know Suzuki make great engines and gearboxes and bikes with superb front end feel, seems their first go at electronic suspension has knocked it out of the park though!

Yeah but it will always be a Suzuki.

[mangocrazy]

232kgs weight .

£14k is now a cheap bike?

Fat bois eat bhp.

I found that pair hard to listen to. Maybe just me.

My thoughts entirely. Overweight, overpriced and overrated (the presenters). Lamb Chop annoys me and I can't really figure out why.

[Dodgy69]

I think if I could only have one bike, that Suzuki could be it. It'll do everything I want my bike to do.

But it's no Enfield.

[mboy]

£14k is now a cheap bike?

Old man in "hasn't heard of inflation" shocker!!!

We have experienced more than 100% total inflation in the last 24years, a £14k bike today is equivalent to one of about £6,600 in Y2K...

But then you knew that already...

[mboy]

232kgs weight .

£14k is now a cheap bike?

Fat bois eat bhp.

I found that pair hard to listen to. Maybe just me.

My thoughts entirely. Overweight, overpriced and overrated (the presenters). Lamb Chop annoys me and I can't really figure out why.

Personally I like Lamb Chop... His style and content appeals to me on the whole, and from experience, the bikes I have ridden or owned that he has also reviewed, we tend to have a similar opinion on for the mostpart, which means I can give his content quite a lot of credence on a personal note... Where on the other hand, The Missenden Flyer, professional though he is undoubtedly, I find myself disagreeing with him quite a lot and find his content pretty dull and unengaging... He's probably "better" at doing the job as he has managed to make it work for him full time, where Lamb Chop still has a day job, but it's all incredibly subjective anyway...

How heavy should a FULLY FUELLED & FULL OF FLUIDS (as this is how they weigh them these days, this changed a handful of years ago, so anyone used to the empty of fluids weights quoted by manufacturers until not all that long ago need to recalibrate their expectations) weigh then...? It's essentially a modern sports tourer with a 1000cc engine, electronic suspension, comfort for 2 people etc... I've owned a couple of 5th gen VFR800's and they were quoted as 208kg empty of fluids, and didn't have any of the toys... The 2001 Blackbird I had was 223kg empty, so with fluids and a full tank of fuel it was more like 245kg... My KTM 1290 Super Adventure is actually lighter than the Blackbird was, like for like, despite it being a big Adventure bike!

And again... For those struggling with rose tinted specs addling their alzheimers ridden brains... If you can't grasp the concept of inflation, then for god's sake I hope you don't need to buy anything... EVER! You'll have a heart attack if you went down the supermarket tomorrow, or needed to buy a house!!!

[mangocrazy]

I think my annoyance with Lamb Chop goes back to a video where he was unashamedly gloating (almost slobbering) over the pile of goodies he'd managed to blag for his long term test bike. It was all a bit 'Smaug on his pile of jewels' if you get my drift. Agree about MF, I can't watch his stuff for any length of time.

I get your point about dry/wet weights, but as I age my tolerance for heavier bikes diminishes proportionally. I have an old (1988) VFR750 that weighs 203kg dry, but is probably not far off the wet weight of the GSX-S with all fluids and I'm starting to find that challenging on anything other than perfectly flat and level surfaces. When Yamaha can make a sub 190kg wet weight 900cc naked bike (XSR 900/MT-09) I wonder why other manufacturers can't produce sub 200kg sport-tourers.

Yeah, inflation is shit. I bought a TL1000S in 1997 and paid £8k for it, so I guess £14k in 2024 is by no means excessive. I think it was the decade plus of 0% interest rates that lulled us all into a false sense of security.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

They're both enormously ugly

[KungFooBob]

That's a pair of mirrors, the bikes are over there...