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Wind and Solar power generated more electricity than Fossil Fuels for the first 6 months of 2024 in the EU, the first time this milestone has been reached in Europe.

But remember, no-one else is changing anything so you don't need to make any effort :thumbup: ;)

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:55 pm Wind and Solar power generated more electricity than Fossil Fuels for the first 6 months of 2024 in the EU, the first time this milestone has been reached in Europe.

But remember, no-one else is changing anything so you don't need to make any effort :thumbup: ;)

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The UK is doing better than EU

December 2023 was the 15th month in a row where zero-carbon generation produced more than fossil fuel generation, showcasing our growing use of zero-carbon electricity.We’ve reduced coal’s involvement in our generation mix by over 97% since 2013. Coal was responsible for just 1% of generation in 2023. In 2018, coal represented 5.1% of electricity produced, and 39.6% in 2013 - illustrating the significant reduction that is taking place.

Electricity from wind turbines has continued to grow in its contribution to the operation of the national network and accounted for 29.4% of electricity generation. On 10 January we broke the first wind record of the year, with wind generating over 21.6GW, and on 21 December we achieved a new maximum wind record of 21.8GW between 8 – 8:30am. 



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Anjem Choudary jailed for life after being convicted of directing terror group!
Anjem Choudary was convicted of three terror charges earlier this month after a joint operation between US, UK and Canadian forces Notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary has been jailed for life after being convicted of directing a banned terrorist organisation. Choudary, 59, was found guilty of running Al-Muhajiroun in a “caretaker role” after its founder Omar Bakri Muhammed was jailed in Lebanon in 2014.For decades, Choudary had evaded authorities and carefully kept himself on the right side of the law, but he was jailed from 2016 to 2018 after being convicted of encouraging support for Isis as the terror group was rampaging across Iraq and Syria. His license conditions expired in 2021, at which point he returned to giving lectures to his supporters.

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Sentencing Choudary today, Judge Mr Justice Wall said "having found you to be dangerous, I have concluded that I must pass on you a sentence of life imprisonment" adding that he would have a minimum term of 26 years, 358 days. In his sentencing remarks, Wall said: "It is clear that despite your protestations, you encouraged people to join Isis.

"It is impossible to say which particular terror acts you knew of or encouraged before they were committed, but I can conclude that you ran an organisation that encouraged acts such as this.

"You sought to grooming young people in your way of thinking.

"You were prepared to encourage young men into radical activity."

Wall added: "I have no doubt that you are a dangerous offender. You are an intelligent man and a persuasive speaker.

"You have no doubt as to the rectitude of your views, your views are entrenched and abhorrent to most right thinking people.

"It was chilling to hear about your denial of the Holocaust and your joking about 9/11.

"I do not sentence you for holding those views, but the fact that you genuinely hold such extreme views, is an indication of the danger that you pose into the future."

"You pose a significant risk of causing harm to the public into the future."
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:06 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:55 pm Wind and Solar power generated more electricity than Fossil Fuels for the first 6 months of 2024 in the EU, the first time this milestone has been reached in Europe.

But remember, no-one else is changing anything so you don't need to make any effort :thumbup: ;)

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The UK is doing better than EU

December 2023 was the 15th month in a row where zero-carbon generation produced more than fossil fuel generation, showcasing our growing use of zero-carbon electricity.We’ve reduced coal’s involvement in our generation mix by over 97% since 2013. Coal was responsible for just 1% of generation in 2023. In 2018, coal represented 5.1% of electricity produced, and 39.6% in 2013 - illustrating the significant reduction that is taking place.

Electricity from wind turbines has continued to grow in its contribution to the operation of the national network and accounted for 29.4% of electricity generation. On 10 January we broke the first wind record of the year, with wind generating over 21.6GW, and on 21 December we achieved a new maximum wind record of 21.8GW between 8 – 8:30am. 



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I suspect the EU average is dragged down quite a lot by a couple of countries.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:18 pm
I suspect the EU average is dragged down quite a lot by a couple of countries.
That and we have more wind and less industrial demand than some. :(
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gremlin wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:48 pm I think M&S shares tumbled on the news that all the pensioners weren't going to be spending their allowance there come Christmas.
You don’t have to be a pensioner to lose your marbles so completely.
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Starmer, my party will always be on the side of pensioners let down by the Tories.

Chancellor Rachel Reeves scraps winter fuel payments for around 10 million pensioners :crazy:

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Taipan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:42 pm 3rd child is now confirmed dead in the Southport stabbings! :thumbdown: From what I can gather the murderer wasn't an illegal migrant, but came here from Rwanda at 1 years old with his parents. Claims are being made he was on Mi5 watchlist, yet its not being treated as a terror attack?! I suspect we'll discover the truth of all this in due course...
BBC say:

A 17-year-old male, arrested on suspicion of murder, remains in custody

He was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents and moved to Southport in 2013 - in Cardiff, ex-neighbours remember a "normal family" with "normal kids"
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:06 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:55 pm Wind and Solar power generated more electricity than Fossil Fuels for the first 6 months of 2024 in the EU, the first time this milestone has been reached in Europe.

But remember, no-one else is changing anything so you don't need to make any effort :thumbup: ;)

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The UK is doing better than EU

December 2023 was the 15th month in a row where zero-carbon generation produced more than fossil fuel generation, showcasing our growing use of zero-carbon electricity.We’ve reduced coal’s involvement in our generation mix by over 97% since 2013. Coal was responsible for just 1% of generation in 2023. In 2018, coal represented 5.1% of electricity produced, and 39.6% in 2013 - illustrating the significant reduction that is taking place.

Electricity from wind turbines has continued to grow in its contribution to the operation of the national network and accounted for 29.4% of electricity generation. On 10 January we broke the first wind record of the year, with wind generating over 21.6GW, and on 21 December we achieved a new maximum wind record of 21.8GW between 8 – 8:30am. 



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https://www.nationalgrideso.com/news/br ... 023-review
And when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine they fire up the old reliables: coal and gas. If they were serious about net zero they'd be going all in on nuclear.
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Horse wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:55 pm
Taipan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:42 pm 3rd child is now confirmed dead in the Southport stabbings! :thumbdown: From what I can gather the murderer wasn't an illegal migrant, but came here from Rwanda at 1 years old with his parents. Claims are being made he was on Mi5 watchlist, yet its not being treated as a terror attack?! I suspect we'll discover the truth of all this in due course...
BBC say:

A 17-year-old male, arrested on suspicion of murder, remains in custody

He was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents and moved to Southport in 2013 - in Cardiff, ex-neighbours remember a "normal family" with "normal kids"
Radicalised? But I'll not trust the BBC anyway.
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Taipan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:03 pm
Horse wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:55 pm
Taipan wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:42 pm 3rd child is now confirmed dead in the Southport stabbings! :thumbdown: From what I can gather the murderer wasn't an illegal migrant, but came here from Rwanda at 1 years old with his parents. Claims are being made he was on Mi5 watchlist, yet its not being treated as a terror attack?! I suspect we'll discover the truth of all this in due course...
BBC say:

A 17-year-old male, arrested on suspicion of murder, remains in custody

He was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents and moved to Southport in 2013 - in Cardiff, ex-neighbours remember a "normal family" with "normal kids"
Radicalised? But I'll not trust the BBC anyway.
T'was for the birth location, nothing to do with radicalisation, vampirism, Jones cult, or any other rumour.
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Saga Lout wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:02 pm
And when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine they fire up the old reliables: coal and gas. If they were serious about net zero they'd be going all in on nuclear.
Well...previously your objection was "they'd have to cover the entire UK in wind turbines to generate enough power", so you're coming around :thumbup:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:02 pm
And when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine they fire up the old reliables: coal and gas. If they were serious about net zero ...
Well...previously your objection was "they'd have to cover the entire UK in wind turbines to generate enough power", so you're coming around :thumbup:
And why there should be greater use of tidal generation. If the tides stop, we'll have bigger concerns than no leccy.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:02 pm
And when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine they fire up the old reliables: coal and gas. If they were serious about net zero they'd be going all in on nuclear.
Well...previously your objection was "they'd have to cover the entire UK in wind turbines to generate enough power", so you're coming around :thumbup:
Cover the country with wind turbines and batteries. Don't forget the batteries. You can't just turn a wind turbine on when you need a bit more power so if you're relying on wind and solar you have to have batteries. And enough battery storage to see us through a prolonged calm period. That's going to be expensive (if the world can even produce enough batteries). Then you'll need lots of landfill for the worn out turbines which have an expected lifespan of about 30 years and can't be recycled.

My objection to wind and solar is summed up in the question: How much free energy can we afford to collect?
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Saga Lout wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:02 pm And when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine they fire up the old reliables: coal and gas. If they were serious about net zero they'd be going all in on nuclear.
Nuclear? At least they CAN build turbines in a timescale that's not geological and they work and don't cost umpteen times the budget or have to be commissioned at a suicidal £/mWh (from forrin companies).

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:02 pm
And when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine they fire up the old reliables: coal and gas. If they were serious about net zero they'd be going all in on nuclear.
Well...previously your objection was "they'd have to cover the entire UK in wind turbines to generate enough power", so you're coming around :thumbup:
The problem no-one mentions is synch. Big beast power stations, no problem. They are synched carefully before being put on line. Wind and solar are not connected unless they are near synch, and then get pulled in. All fine, as long as the big beasts are there. Take away all the big stuff and ......
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It's progress from 'you can't possibly build enough wind turbines' at least.

One has to wonder how places like Denmark and Portugal have 100% renewable days. Doesn't sound possible to me.;)
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:55 pm It's progress from 'you can't possibly build enough wind turbines' at least.

One has to wonder how places like Denmark and Portugal have 100% renewable days. Doesn't sound possible to me.;)
Works as long as the network is up, crash it and you have a MAJOR problem, recovery could take days or weeks.
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A normal family with normal kids...those were the days. 🤔
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All you wanted to know about black starts on the grid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_start

Including a bit about a wind farm in Scotland restarting part of the grid.