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cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:17 am
Mussels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:51 pm
The BBC is also saying it has the hallmarks of left wing protestors but those protestors aren't thought to be organised enough to pull it off.
It's a tough one, isn't it? You want to be able to blame the 'left wingers', but it's clearly been a well thought out and carefully planned operation and you don't want to credit those bolshie left wingers with the nous to organise and pull it off (3 out of 4 ain't bad)... :)

What's a lick-arse news agency to do?
Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
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You've probably not heard about it, but today is the big, Uniting the Kingdom march from the Royal Courts of Justice to Trafalgar Square where there will be multiple speakers and live bands etc. To counter it other groups have organised marches. Big appeals rom the Uniting The Kingdom organisers (basically Tommy Robinson) to remain peaceful under provocation from the far left and point out infiltrators. No wearing face masks or getting pissed up etc. I wonder how this will end up and how the Met Police will behave, he asked knowingly...
Met Police wrote:There will be a visible policing presence in central London on Saturday with a number of events, including protests, due to take place.

Around 1,000 officers will be on duty supporting the policing operation with the majority of resources directed at the following three events:

A march organised by Tommy Robinson which will set off from outside the Royal Courts of Justice, ending in Trafalgar Square where a rally will take place.
A march organised by Stand Up To Racism and other groups as a counter protest to the above event. It will set off from Russell Square, ending in Whitehall where a rally will take place.
A Trans Pride event consisting of a march from Langham Place ending at Wellington Arch where speeches will take place.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:17 am

It's a tough one, isn't it? You want to be able to blame the 'left wingers', but it's clearly been a well thought out and carefully planned operation and you don't want to credit those bolshie left wingers with the nous to organise and pull it off (3 out of 4 ain't bad)... :)

What's a lick-arse news agency to do?
Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
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Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am

Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
The majority of what's left of the Tories can be characterised as right wing, yes. They've effectively driven all (or most) of the moderates out. The Brexit wars accounted for a lot of that idealogical cleansing, of course.
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I don't think even the most extreme end of the Torry party would advocate setting fire to the railways. It would mean they have less value when they want to sell it to their mates.
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cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:39 pm I don't think even the most extreme end of the Torry party would advocate setting fire to the railways. It would mean they have less value when they want to sell it to their mates.
But if they did, would they be more effective and better organised than their left-wing counterparts? Could they be trusted to do the job right?
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Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:58 pm
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 12:49 pm Copper giving a wrong 'un a shoeing.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjqep1ew419o

It's funny how the videos doing the rounds only show the copper giving the suspect a hoof in the nugget, not the actions of said miscreant that caused the female plod to get a broken schnozzer.

I actually think giving a scumbag a good hoofing should be mandatory. Teach the fuckers a lesson.
No actually sure Plod should be hoofing folk in the head like that, whatever his crimes. :wtf:
This should never be excusable and that copper needs to be dealt with. But the police force set that up, they created conditions for that to happen and they will try to will pile all of the blame on the individual.
There is a big problem with institutional police corruption, much more than a few rogue individuals, I don't think having elected PCCs set priorities is making anything better.
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This video shows the lead up to the copper kicking the kid in the head


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Yorick wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:53 pm This video shows the lead up to the copper kicking the kid in the head


Looks to me like the copper took pet and smashed the blokes head against something then got pasted by the blokes mate, shit himself and tazed anyone within a wires length of himself.
He still looks like a thug to me.

Maybe we need a before the before video.
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TWOC'y lads.
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Not as cut and dried as many would like it be be.

Keep it nice and stereotyped...nice and stereotyped...

Seems the plod tramping was more than justified.
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Dont be cunts to the police and they may not be cunts back.
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Felix wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:24 am Dont be cunts to the police and they may not be cunts back.
That works both ways and I believe is why police get very little public support where they need it most.
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Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am
Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
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irie wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 am
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
Is that honestly the best you can do?

It's a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep...
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mangocrazy wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:53 am
irie wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 am
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am

Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
Is that honestly the best you can do?

It's a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep...
But he's no Geoffrey Howe.
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mangocrazy wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:53 am
irie wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 am
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
Is that honestly the best you can do?

It's a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep...
More than your thoroughly partisan post merited. x
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gremlin wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:42 am Not as cut and dried as many would like it be be.

Keep it nice and stereotyped...nice and stereotyped...

Seems the plod tramping was more than justified.
By my watching, the two TWOC'y lads, in their holiday clothes, were giving the larger number of coppers a good pasting. If it wasn't for the tasers, they look like they'd have had the better of the situation.

As for the final kick, I wonder if it was because the officer was pissed off or annoyed because his colleague got hurt so put the boot in when it wasn't really necessary. I'd rather he hadn't. But I would let it go because the two lads were asking for trouble and had dished out enough themselves.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:54 pm I wonder if it was because the officer was pissed off or annoyed because his colleague got hurt
My missus said the same, but that the bloke copper was probably knocking off the woman copper who got hurt, hence the reaction.
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Looking at it again, I think it was one male officer and two female officers vs the two TWOC'y lads. And to be fair at least one of the lads looked like he worked out a fair bit. I'd initially thought there were more police.