In todays news...

Current affairs, Politics, News.
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by mangocrazy »

cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:17 am
Mussels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 11:51 pm
The BBC is also saying it has the hallmarks of left wing protestors but those protestors aren't thought to be organised enough to pull it off.
It's a tough one, isn't it? You want to be able to blame the 'left wingers', but it's clearly been a well thought out and carefully planned operation and you don't want to credit those bolshie left wingers with the nous to organise and pull it off (3 out of 4 ain't bad)... :)

What's a lick-arse news agency to do?
Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
User avatar
Taipan
Posts: 13951
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Location: Essex Riviera!
Has thanked: 15964 times
Been thanked: 10249 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Taipan »

You've probably not heard about it, but today is the big, Uniting the Kingdom march from the Royal Courts of Justice to Trafalgar Square where there will be multiple speakers and live bands etc. To counter it other groups have organised marches. Big appeals rom the Uniting The Kingdom organisers (basically Tommy Robinson) to remain peaceful under provocation from the far left and point out infiltrators. No wearing face masks or getting pissed up etc. I wonder how this will end up and how the Met Police will behave, he asked knowingly...
Met Police wrote:There will be a visible policing presence in central London on Saturday with a number of events, including protests, due to take place.

Around 1,000 officers will be on duty supporting the policing operation with the majority of resources directed at the following three events:

A march organised by Tommy Robinson which will set off from outside the Royal Courts of Justice, ending in Trafalgar Square where a rally will take place.
A march organised by Stand Up To Racism and other groups as a counter protest to the above event. It will set off from Russell Square, ending in Whitehall where a rally will take place.
A Trans Pride event consisting of a march from Langham Place ending at Wellington Arch where speeches will take place.
Saga Lout
Posts: 1842
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 566 times
Been thanked: 756 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Saga Lout »

mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:17 am

It's a tough one, isn't it? You want to be able to blame the 'left wingers', but it's clearly been a well thought out and carefully planned operation and you don't want to credit those bolshie left wingers with the nous to organise and pull it off (3 out of 4 ain't bad)... :)

What's a lick-arse news agency to do?
Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by mangocrazy »

Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am

Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
The majority of what's left of the Tories can be characterised as right wing, yes. They've effectively driven all (or most) of the moderates out. The Brexit wars accounted for a lot of that idealogical cleansing, of course.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
cheb
Posts: 4908
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:51 am
Been thanked: 2618 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by cheb »

I don't think even the most extreme end of the Torry party would advocate setting fire to the railways. It would mean they have less value when they want to sell it to their mates.
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by mangocrazy »

cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:39 pm I don't think even the most extreme end of the Torry party would advocate setting fire to the railways. It would mean they have less value when they want to sell it to their mates.
But if they did, would they be more effective and better organised than their left-wing counterparts? Could they be trusted to do the job right?
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
Mussels
Posts: 4445
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 838 times
Been thanked: 1240 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:58 pm
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 12:49 pm Copper giving a wrong 'un a shoeing.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjqep1ew419o

It's funny how the videos doing the rounds only show the copper giving the suspect a hoof in the nugget, not the actions of said miscreant that caused the female plod to get a broken schnozzer.

I actually think giving a scumbag a good hoofing should be mandatory. Teach the fuckers a lesson.
No actually sure Plod should be hoofing folk in the head like that, whatever his crimes. :wtf:
This should never be excusable and that copper needs to be dealt with. But the police force set that up, they created conditions for that to happen and they will try to will pile all of the blame on the individual.
There is a big problem with institutional police corruption, much more than a few rogue individuals, I don't think having elected PCCs set priorities is making anything better.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16750
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10271 times
Been thanked: 6887 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yorick »

This video shows the lead up to the copper kicking the kid in the head


demographic
Posts: 3028
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:30 pm
Location: Less that 50 miles away from Moscow, but which one?
Has thanked: 1348 times
Been thanked: 1722 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by demographic »

Yorick wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:53 pm This video shows the lead up to the copper kicking the kid in the head


Looks to me like the copper took pet and smashed the blokes head against something then got pasted by the blokes mate, shit himself and tazed anyone within a wires length of himself.
He still looks like a thug to me.

Maybe we need a before the before video.
MyLittleStudPony
Posts: 1152
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:28 pm
Has thanked: 617 times
Been thanked: 407 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by MyLittleStudPony »

TWOC'y lads.
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5930
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 810 times
Been thanked: 4805 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

Not as cut and dried as many would like it be be.

Keep it nice and stereotyped...nice and stereotyped...

Seems the plod tramping was more than justified.
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
Felix
Posts: 3950
Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:34 am
Has thanked: 485 times
Been thanked: 1428 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Felix »

Dont be cunts to the police and they may not be cunts back.
Mussels
Posts: 4445
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 838 times
Been thanked: 1240 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

Felix wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:24 am Dont be cunts to the police and they may not be cunts back.
That works both ways and I believe is why police get very little public support where they need it most.
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by irie »

Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
cheb wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:21 am
Maybe the left wing protestors are too busy infighting and sabotaging each others plans to actually concentrate on attacking their enemy. They do have previous form on this.
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6920
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2407 times
Been thanked: 3635 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by mangocrazy »

irie wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 am
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:32 am
I'd say that's a fair summary of the way both left and right wing minorities work. Just look at the current state of the Tories for confirmation.
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
Is that honestly the best you can do?

It's a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep...
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
Saga Lout
Posts: 1842
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 566 times
Been thanked: 756 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Saga Lout »

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:53 am
irie wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 am
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am

Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
Is that honestly the best you can do?

It's a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep...
But he's no Geoffrey Howe.
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by irie »

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:53 am
irie wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 am
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:15 am
Are you using the Tories as an example of a right wing organisation? That's a bit of a stretch.
Mango chutney strikes again :lol:
Is that honestly the best you can do?

It's a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep...
More than your thoroughly partisan post merited. x
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
MyLittleStudPony
Posts: 1152
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:28 pm
Has thanked: 617 times
Been thanked: 407 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by MyLittleStudPony »

gremlin wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:42 am Not as cut and dried as many would like it be be.

Keep it nice and stereotyped...nice and stereotyped...

Seems the plod tramping was more than justified.
By my watching, the two TWOC'y lads, in their holiday clothes, were giving the larger number of coppers a good pasting. If it wasn't for the tasers, they look like they'd have had the better of the situation.

As for the final kick, I wonder if it was because the officer was pissed off or annoyed because his colleague got hurt so put the boot in when it wasn't really necessary. I'd rather he hadn't. But I would let it go because the two lads were asking for trouble and had dished out enough themselves.
User avatar
KungFooBob
Posts: 14218
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
Has thanked: 539 times
Been thanked: 7535 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by KungFooBob »

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:54 pm I wonder if it was because the officer was pissed off or annoyed because his colleague got hurt
My missus said the same, but that the bloke copper was probably knocking off the woman copper who got hurt, hence the reaction.
MyLittleStudPony
Posts: 1152
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:28 pm
Has thanked: 617 times
Been thanked: 407 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by MyLittleStudPony »

Looking at it again, I think it was one male officer and two female officers vs the two TWOC'y lads. And to be fair at least one of the lads looked like he worked out a fair bit. I'd initially thought there were more police.