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Mussels wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:51 am
The blue pill isn't so bad.
As long as you take 15 mins beforehand. ;)
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This is just nuts...Science based story BTW, not nuts for contentious political reasons :D

Huge amounts of oxygen are being produced on the sea floor, without an light or indeed life being present. Maybe trees shouldn't get all the credit!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:57 pm This is just nuts...Science based story BTW, not nuts for contentious political reasons :D

Huge amounts of oxygen are being produced on the sea floor, without an light or indeed life being present. Maybe trees shouldn't get all the credit!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo
BBC wrote:“It's like a battery in a torch,” he added. “You put one battery in, it doesn't light up. You put two in and you've got enough voltage to light up the torch. So when the nodules are sitting at the seafloor in contact with one another, they’re working in unison - like multiple batteries.”
If you put a battery in a torch that's designed to take a battery, the torch will work. Likewise if you put two batteries in a torch designed for two batteries or three into a torch designed for three...etc. :roll:
BBC wrote:The researchers put this theory to the test in the lab, collecting and studying the potato-sized metal nodules. Their experiments measured the voltages on the surface of each metallic lump - essentially the strength of the electric current. They found it to be almost equal to the voltage in a typical AA-sized battery.
If you measure the voltage, what you get is "essentially" the voltage. If you want the current you "essentially" measure the current. :roll:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:57 pm This is just nuts...Science based story BTW, not nuts for contentious political reasons :D

Huge amounts of oxygen are being produced on the sea floor, without an light or indeed life being present. Maybe trees shouldn't get all the credit!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo
I like the euphemistic 'collect' in 'Several mining companies have plans to collect these nodules...' Like folk collect fossils. They're basically wanting to drag up the sea bed and, for want of a better word, mine them.

In conspiracy mode, manganese nodules were supposed to be plentiful on the sea bed around the Falklands and a British company had the licence to evaluate potential exploration/exploitation of them. The story goes that Denis Thatcher was an investor. So when the Argentinians tried to reclaim sovereignty of the area.......

No mention of that area here though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese ... C000%20ft).

The quantities are quite staggering. Billions of tonnes.
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Saga Lout wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:16 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:57 pm This is just nuts...Science based story BTW, not nuts for contentious political reasons :D

Huge amounts of oxygen are being produced on the sea floor, without an light or indeed life being present. Maybe trees shouldn't get all the credit!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo
BBC wrote:“It's like a battery in a torch,” he added. “You put one battery in, it doesn't light up. You put two in and you've got enough voltage to light up the torch. So when the nodules are sitting at the seafloor in contact with one another, they’re working in unison - like multiple batteries.”
If you put a battery in a torch that's designed to take a battery, the torch will work. Likewise if you put two batteries in a torch designed for two batteries or three into a torch designed for three...etc. :roll:
BBC wrote:The researchers put this theory to the test in the lab, collecting and studying the potato-sized metal nodules. Their experiments measured the voltages on the surface of each metallic lump - essentially the strength of the electric current. They found it to be almost equal to the voltage in a typical AA-sized battery.
If you measure the voltage, what you get is "essentially" the voltage. If you want the current you "essentially" measure the current. :roll:
If you want to measure voltage with an analog meter then it essentially measures current and works out the voltage, digital meters are almost the opposite but it doesn't change the fact the BBC writer has forgotten most of their GCSE physics and should stop being lazy and do more research.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:57 pm This is just nuts...Science based story BTW, not nuts for contentious political reasons :D

Huge amounts of oxygen are being produced on the sea floor, without an light or indeed life being present. Maybe trees shouldn't get all the credit!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo

I thought it was phytoplankton that were responsible for the large majority of oxygen production. Not as pretty to look at though.

And nodule mining was the cover story for the Howard Hughes's Glomar Whatsit searching for a sunken Russian submarine.

Added: Random link says 80% https://eos.org/research-spotlights/wor ... ean-waters

More added: It was the CIA wot dun it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
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Mussels wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:51 pm If you want to measure voltage with an analog meter then it essentially measures current and works out the voltage, digital meters are almost the opposite but it doesn't change the fact the BBC writer has forgotten most of their GCSE physics and should stop being lazy and do more research.
You're "essentially" correct. Maybe the BBC should employ science graduates to write about sciencey things and leave the arts graduates to write about the unimportant things.
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Scientists; Make amazing new discovery and try to present a complex idea in a simple way the layperson can understand.

Old people on the Internet: You can't put two batteries in a torch designed for one.
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cheb wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:46 am And once cash is gone what'll there be to barter with now that cigarettes have all but disappeared?
Think I read somewhere that about a quarter of 18 year old vape, so it's vapes innit?
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:39 pm Scientists; Make amazing new discovery and try to present a complex idea in a simple way the layperson can understand.

Old people on the Internet: You can't put two batteries in a torch designed for one.
I may be old, but I can recognise a bad analogy when I see one, and that was a particularly bad one.
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cheb wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:59 pm More added: It was the CIA wot dun it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
Yeah Project Azorian was my first thought too :lol:. Followed by "who would play the role of Howard Hughes today?". Elon Musk I reckon. I await the whacky new "idea" he comes up with as a cover story...

Wouldn't it be weird of we discovered loads of our air comes from rocks on the sea floor though? Feels like the sort of thing that might warrant investigating before digging em all up :hmmm:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:48 am
cheb wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:59 pm More added: It was the CIA wot dun it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
Yeah Project Azorian was my first thought too :lol:. Followed by "who would play the role of Howard Hughes today?". Elon Musk I reckon. I await the whacky new "idea" he comes up with as a cover story...

Wouldn't it be weird of we discovered loads of our air comes from rocks on the sea floor though? Feels like the sort of thing that might warrant investigating before digging em all up :hmmm:

As dreams go, Musk becoming a recluse is a pretty good one. Just shutting up would be a start.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:57 pm This is just nuts...Science based story BTW, not nuts for contentious political reasons :D

Huge amounts of oxygen are being produced on the sea floor, without an light or indeed life being present. Maybe trees shouldn't get all the credit!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c728ven2v9eo
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Yeah, but nobody has ever built an algae-house.
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They're gonna dissuade folk from using the mega-expensive new trains :obscene-birdiedoublered:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c725k6ynw7go

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg640n3372qo
Bibby Stockholm migrant barge to be closed
I wonder if they will take holiday bookings? I've stayed in far worse government accommodation and the views look great.
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Mussels wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:29 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg640n3372qo
Bibby Stockholm migrant barge to be closed
I wonder if they will take holiday bookings? I've stayed in far worse government accommodation and the views look great.
At His (or Her) Majesty's pleasure? :D
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:17 pm
Mussels wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:29 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg640n3372qo
Bibby Stockholm migrant barge to be closed
I wonder if they will take holiday bookings? I've stayed in far worse government accommodation and the views look great.
At His (or Her) Majesty's pleasure? :D
Fortunately not but that would probably be a higher standard than I'm used to.
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In fairness, this is a bit shit....

BBC News - 'I was given Freedom of City but not freedom of room'
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp4wjvr127wo

Summary, woman is given the Freedom of the City of London for her campaigning for disability rights, in a posh ceremony, only they didn't provide a wheelchair ramp for her to go up and collect the award....

Little bit of joined up thinking, eh?
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gremlin wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:28 am In fairness, this is a bit shit....

BBC News - 'I was given Freedom of City but not freedom of room'
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp4wjvr127wo

Summary, woman is given the Freedom of the City of London for her campaigning for disability rights, in a posh ceremony, only they didn't provide a wheelchair ramp for her to go up and collect the award....

Little bit of joined up thinking, eh?
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