This time next year, President Trump moves back into the Whitehouse...

[Timmy]

Surely, given Covid is still highly infectious, the proper thing to do if diagnosed is to stay home? And since he's in his 80's, if it is covid, there's a fairly big risk to him if he doesn't rest up for the duration

Don't worry, he's had multiple effective vaccines that stops Covid in its tracks.

[Noggin]

Surely, given Covid is still highly infectious, the proper thing to do if diagnosed is to stay home? And since he's in his 80's, if it is covid, there's a fairly big risk to him if he doesn't rest up for the duration

Don't worry, he's had multiple effective vaccines that stops Covid in its tracks.

Oh right. I thought vaccines just helped reduce the effect of a virus and increased the population's ability to fight them. Didn't realise a vaccine stopped a virus in it's tracks!! Woohoo!

[Timmy]

Surely, given Covid is still highly infectious, the proper thing to do if diagnosed is to stay home? And since he's in his 80's, if it is covid, there's a fairly big risk to him if he doesn't rest up for the duration

Don't worry, he's had multiple effective vaccines that stops Covid in its tracks.

Oh right. I thought vaccines just helped reduce the effect of a virus and increased the population's ability to fight them. Didn't realise a vaccine stopped a virus in it's tracks!! Woohoo!

I'm just repeating what we were told, were you not listening?

[Noggin]

Don't worry, he's had multiple effective vaccines that stops Covid in its tracks.

Oh right. I thought vaccines just helped reduce the effect of a virus and increased the population's ability to fight them. Didn't realise a vaccine stopped a virus in it's tracks!! Woohoo!

I'm just repeating what we were told, were you not listening?

Generally? No!! LOL Seems to work better than way!

[DefTrap]

I'm just repeating what we were told, were you not listening?

Well, someone wasn't.

[Timmy]

I'm just repeating what we were told, were you not listening?

Well, someone wasn't.

Otex is very reasonably priced if you need any.

[Taipan]

And that's the key to the Whitehouse door!

[Slenver]

Moron, lol! He turned a £300 million inheritance into a $6billion+ empire and achieved the highest office in the free world. I'd say he's a bit smarter than your average Joe!

Well, kind of... he took the companies he inherited and the $400m and made that grow... as has been often pointed out though, if he'd just stuck that money in the stock money he'd likely have made way more. Most of his businesses have been spectacular failures, often ending in lawsuits, bankruptcies, unpaid debts and scandals.

He's currently valued at Forbes at $7.1bn, but most of that is shares in Truth Social which has a very high theoretical value due to some oddities I barely understand, and is hardly down to any business acumen on his behalf.. it's just a way of him bypassing existing social media so he can lie to his cultists and grovel for more cash. If you ignore that $5.6bn, you're left with under $2bn. So he's managed to increase the size of his wealth by 5 times in 40+ years! Jeez, I mean, I've invested some money in shares and made around 15x my investment in around 10 years, so I must be 12 times as good at business as he is, and I've done fuck all!

Of course, we could just look at his tax and business records, right, to prove how rich he really is? Well, no, because he refuses to release them and tries to sue anyone that tries, for some reason, not that he has anything to hide of course.

As for not being a moron... have you heard him try to form a sentence? And why then did his professor at uni repeatedly tell people that "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had," and one of his secretaries of state reportedly say he was "a fucking moron"?

Of course, we could just look at his university records, right, to prove how well he did? Well, no, because he's threatened them with legal action if they ever release them, for some reason, not that he has anything to hide of course.

I'll just leave you with a couple of typical Trump quotes that show his true genius... the knowledge, the expertise, the eloquence....!

“You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things. But nobody talks about that.”

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that."

I'd suggest to you that the man has the emotional development of, say, a 12 year old, and an IQ of around 90-100. He just happened to be born into incredible wealth, and given a company and an extraordinary amount of money to play with, much of which he's lost due to incompetence and fraud. The fact that he's rich now isn't that relevant... he was born a millionaire.

[cheb]

Are the people who want him to release his tax records also willing to release theirs? And if not why not?

Not that it bothers me either way, it just seems an easy way to score points in ming mong tennis.

[gremlin]

Any man that can wear a tie down to his knees gets my vote.

[Slenver]

Are the people who want him to release his tax records also willing to release theirs? And if not why not?

Not that it bothers me either way, it just seems an easy way to score points in ming mong tennis.

Pretty much, yes. Every president since Nixon has voluntarily, including Biden, and many (but not all) senior roles in cabinet, sub-Cabinet-level positions in the Treasury Department, Social Security Administration, Department of Homeland Security, Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and other agencies have to by law.

[Taipan]

Moron, lol! He turned a £300 million inheritance into a $6billion+ empire and achieved the highest office in the free world. I'd say he's a bit smarter than your average Joe!

Well, kind of... he took the companies he inherited and the $400m and made that grow... as has been often pointed out though, if he'd just stuck that money in the stock money he'd likely have made way more. Most of his businesses have been spectacular failures, often ending in lawsuits, bankruptcies, unpaid debts and scandals.

He's currently valued at Forbes at $7.1bn, but most of that is shares in Truth Social which has a very high theoretical value due to some oddities I barely understand, and is hardly down to any business acumen on his behalf.. it's just a way of him bypassing existing social media so he can lie to his cultists and grovel for more cash. If you ignore that $5.6bn, you're left with under $2bn. So he's managed to increase the size of his wealth by 5 times in 40+ years! Jeez, I mean, I've invested some money in shares and made around 15x my investment in around 10 years, so I must be 12 times as good at business as he is, and I've done fuck all!

Of course, we could just look at his tax and business records, right, to prove how rich he really is? Well, no, because he refuses to release them and tries to sue anyone that tries, for some reason, not that he has anything to hide of course.

As for not being a moron... have you heard him try to form a sentence? And why then did his professor at uni repeatedly tell people that "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had," and one of his secretaries of state reportedly say he was "a fucking moron"?

Of course, we could just look at his university records, right, to prove how well he did? Well, no, because he's threatened them with legal action if they ever release them, for some reason, not that he has anything to hide of course.

I'll just leave you with a couple of typical Trump quotes that show his true genius... the knowledge, the expertise, the eloquence....!

“You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things. But nobody talks about that.”

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that."

I'd suggest to you that the man has the emotional development of, say, a 12 year old, and an IQ of around 90-100. He just happened to be born into incredible wealth, and given a company and an extraordinary amount of money to play with, much of which he's lost due to incompetence and fraud. The fact that he's rich now isn't that relevant... he was born a millionaire.

He's a businessman as well as an investor. They don't just leave money in stocks & shares. He used his acumen and increased his wealth dramatically . He's everything from a property developer to a venture capitalist. He changed zoning laws in NYC to suit his developments. He brought in multiple city projects under budget and before time. You don't get to be a multi Billionaire by being useless and stupid. He used every tax break possible because its the smart thing to do. Remember the famous interaction between him and Hilary Clinton over it? In case you dont...

[cheb]

Are the people who want him to release his tax records also willing to release theirs? And if not why not?

Not that it bothers me either way, it just seems an easy way to score points in ming mong tennis.

Pretty much, yes. Every president since Nixon has voluntarily, including Biden, and many (but not all) senior roles in cabinet, sub-Cabinet-level positions in the Treasury Department, Social Security Administration, Department of Homeland Security, Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and other agencies have to by law.

Thanks. One should do the done thing old boy, dontchaknow. Setting an example and all that. Bad form otherwise

[Slenver]

He's a businessman as well as an investor. They don't just leave money in stocks & shares.

Exactly. My point is that he's such a bad businessman and investor that anybody could've made more money than him by doing essentially nothing.

The big-name businessmen and investors have increased their wealth by millions of times over. He's managed 5.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I think Trump's wealth - or lack of - is best described as "murky"...almost certainoly 'cause he likes it that way

I do enjoy the fact one of the most profitable things he's ever done is The Apprentice. Four hundred million! I can just imagine Alan Sugar (sorry, Sir Lord Alan) getting all annoyed he didn't enjoy the same action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of ... %20courses.

[Slenver]

I think Trump's wealth - or lack of - is best described as "murky"...almost certainoly 'cause he likes it that way

I do enjoy the fact one of the most profitable things he's ever done is The Apprentice. Four hundred million! I can just imagine Alan Sugar (sorry, Sir Lord Alan) getting all annoyed he didn't enjoy the same action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of ... %20courses.

Yeah... he gives it the whole 'successful businessman schtick' when actually he's an ex-reality TV host.

No worse than Reagan as an ex-actor really though.

[wheelnut]

He's a businessman as well as an investor. They don't just leave money in stocks & shares. He used his acumen and increased his wealth dramatically . He's everything from a property developer to a venture capitalist. He changed zoning laws in NYC to suit his developments. He brought in multiple city projects under budget and before time. You don't get to be a multi Billionaire by being useless and stupid. He used every tax break possible because its the smart thing to do. Remember the famous interaction between him and Hilary Clinton over it? In case you dont...

Would you like to be one of his suppliers, and have your business and livelihood dependent on him paying your invoices on time?

[Taipan]

He's a businessman as well as an investor. They don't just leave money in stocks & shares.

Exactly. My point is that he's such a bad businessman and investor that anybody could've made more money than him by doing essentially nothing.

The big-name businessmen and investors have increased their wealth by millions of times over. He's managed 5.

I very much doubt anyone could at all. His success will mock many others failures, although i'm sure that applies to people upstream of his success, but he then Trumped their success with a presidency as the icing on the cake and a very probable second term too. Like him or loathe him, he is an American success story and by the end of his second term I suspect he'll be a deca-billionaire with a firm place in American history and probably folklore too after surviving the assignation attempt. Moron. Seriously!

[Taipan]

He's a businessman as well as an investor. They don't just leave money in stocks & shares. He used his acumen and increased his wealth dramatically . He's everything from a property developer to a venture capitalist. He changed zoning laws in NYC to suit his developments. He brought in multiple city projects under budget and before time. You don't get to be a multi Billionaire by being useless and stupid. He used every tax break possible because its the smart thing to do. Remember the famous interaction between him and Hilary Clinton over it? In case you dont...

Would you like to be one of his suppliers, and have your business and livelihood dependent on him paying your invoices on time?

Strange thing to ask me? I'm not a businessman?

[Slenver]

He's a businessman as well as an investor. They don't just leave money in stocks & shares.

Exactly. My point is that he's such a bad businessman and investor that anybody could've made more money than him by doing essentially nothing.

The big-name businessmen and investors have increased their wealth by millions of times over. He's managed 5.

I very much doubt anyone could at all. His success will mock many others failures, although i'm sure that applies to people upstream of his success, but he then Trumped their success with a presidency as the icing on the cake and a very probable second term too. Like him or loathe him, he is an American success story and by the end of his second term I suspect he'll be a deca-billionaire with a firm place in American history and probably folklore too after surviving the assignation attempt. Moron. Seriously!

Well, much of this is subjective and we're clearly not going to agree on much here!

I imagine he'll earn a firm place in American history, yes... though on a level somewhere between Nixon and Hitler, hopefully merely a Nixon.