Who Will You Vote For?

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Party?

Labour
17
31%
Conservative
4
7%
UKIP
0
No votes
Reform UK
11
20%
Lib Dems
7
13%
Greens
3
5%
Iccy's Bumming Hat Party
13
24%
 
Total votes: 55

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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:49 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:36 pm I have no idea how that would be resolved.
Pedants competition, obviously.
So the elderly still choose?
Not much different than now where the elderly are more likely to vote.
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Horse wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:37 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:36 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:27 pm Plus tue whole "they never win by one seat" thinking is fundamentally daft.

Everyone only gets one vote, that's how it works.

If EVERYONE adopts a "my vote doesn't matter" thought they'd make themselves correct. You end up with a minority who care strongly about one thing or another running the show, rather than a (usually) more sensible majority.
Your logic is wrong. If EVERYONE adopted the "my vote doesn't matter" idea and therefore doesn't vote, each candidate would get zero votes. I have no idea how that would be resolved.
Your logic is wrong?

Candidates would probably (if they remembered their ID vote for themselves ;)
If "everybody" doesn't include the candidates then it's not everybody, is it?

Ipso facto, my case rests. :P
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Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:29 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:37 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:36 pm

Your logic is wrong. If EVERYONE adopted the "my vote doesn't matter" idea and therefore doesn't vote, each candidate would get zero votes. I have no idea how that would be resolved.
Your logic is wrong?

Candidates would probably (if they remembered their ID vote for themselves ;)
If "everybody" doesn't include the candidates then it's not everybody, is it?

Ipso facto, my case rests. :P
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:27 pm Plus tue whole "they never win by one seat" thinking is fundamentally daft.

Everyone only gets one vote, that's how it works.

If EVERYONE adopts a "my vote doesn't matter" thought they'd make themselves correct. You end up with a minority who care strongly about one thing or another running the show, rather than a (usually) more sensible majority.
The UK has had a notionally "sensible majority" for over 10 years which has fucked up big time. Now the UK has a "sensible minority" who over the next few years will undoubtedly also fuck up big time. By then the notionally "sensible majority" will have hopefully got their arses in order and actually do what the majority of the electorate want. But not holding my breath.
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Bit late to tell people how you plan to vote now isnt it?
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irie wrote: The UK has had a notionally "sensible majority" for over 10 years which has fucked up big time. Now the UK has a "sensible minority" who over the next few years will undoubtedly also fuck up big time. By then the notionally "sensible majority" will have hopefully got their arses in order and actually do what the majority of the electorate want. But not holding my breath.
demographic wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:05 pm Bit late to tell people how you plan to vote now isnt it?
Are you ok Irie? Confused? Nap time soon though eh?
Move your fingers slooowly under the words while moving your mouth then you will undoubtedly discover that I wasn't telling anyone how I planned to vote. Best put your nail gun down before you again shoot yourself in the foot.Bless.
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Horse wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:45 pm Candidates are special, not just an anyone or everyone. They must be, to want to do the job. Let alone be PM.
OK. Let us pretend that candidates are not included in "everyone" and they each vote for themselves. We again have a tie, this time one vote each instead of zero votes each. I don't know how that would be resolved either. :P
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Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:35 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:45 pm Candidates are special, not just an anyone or everyone. They must be, to want to do the job. Let alone be PM.
OK. Let us pretend that candidates are not included in "everyone" and they each vote for themselves. We again have a tie, this time one vote each instead of zero votes each. I don't know how that would be resolved either. :P
Alright then. Apparently the coin 'best tosser' option has gone out of fashion.
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Media says that Tony Blair is advising Labour to introduce ID cards. Perhaps the time has come for them, but if someone doesn't have one what will happen, send them to the "Naughty Corner"? In any case, won't reduce annual legal immigration of over 500,000 ...
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irie wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:06 am Media says that Tony Blair is advising Labour to introduce ID cards. Perhaps the time has come for them, but if someone doesn't have one what will happen, send them to the "Naughty Corner"? In any case, won't reduce annual legal immigration of over 500,000 ...
He just wants a bigger IT scandal to distract attention from Horizon.
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Well, our new MP is James McMurdock Reform UK! :thumbup:
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irie wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:06 am Media says that Tony Blair is advising Labour to introduce ID cards. Perhaps the time has come for them, but if someone doesn't have one what will happen, send them to the "Naughty Corner"? In any case, won't reduce annual legal immigration of over 500,000 ...
Why do the Brits not want ID cards?

I've never really understood why people are anti because if you drive you have photo ID, if you travel you have photo ID, a lot of work places have photo ID.

I've got a credit card sized passport (as well as the normal passport) which I carry as ID over here - mostly because the French have ID cards, so it's handy to have something 'formal' that is a recognised card. (Also have a driving licence, health card and residency card all with a photo on!!)

But, why are UK people so very anti having an official ID card?
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Noggin wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:37 pm
Why do the Brits not want ID cards?
We don’t want the Gestapo abruptly demanding our papers!
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Walking down the street in our own country is not a privilege that requires proof of identity or proof of anything.
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JackyJoll wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:39 pm
Noggin wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:37 pm
Why do the Brits not want ID cards?
We don’t want the Gestapo abruptly demanding our papers!
Think you'd have to travel a fair distance to find a Gestapo but anyway -

It's ok for the police to demand to see your driving licence in a driving situation? What's the difference to another situation and needing to show an ID card?
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JackyJoll wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:41 pm Walking down the street in our own country is not a privilege that requires proof of identity or proof of anything.
I've never been stopped and asked for ID when walking down a street. But I know in the uk there are regular stops of people, so if there was a card to show to prove ID, surely that makes it easier?
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Noggin wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:41 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:39 pm
Noggin wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:37 pm
Why do the Brits not want ID cards?
We don’t want the Gestapo abruptly demanding our papers!
Think you'd have to travel a fair distance to find a Gestapo but anyway -

It's ok for the police to demand to see your driving licence in a driving situation? What's the difference to another situation and needing to show an ID card?
We’ve all seen too many films with Gestapo snapping at people. It has an effect!

You can drive without carrying your licence, but it’s reasonable for cops to check that a driver is qualified to drive. There is a problem of unqualified people driving.
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If you drive in the UK you don't have to carry your ID or any other 'paperwork'.

ID is one of those ideas that works fine until someone in uniform demands to see your ID, just because they can. I imagine quite a few people remember the demand for 'Papers!' from gentlemen in rather forbidding uniforms.

I do find I need my photo licence for more and more...even picking up a delivery from the Royal Mail depot (despite having the 'we tried to deliver' note in my hand).
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BBC wrote:New "Baby of the House" Sam Carling says he has a "lot of experience older MPs won't have", after being elected in Thursday's election.
The 22-year-old is now the youngest member of the House of Commons, after winning by a razor-thin majority in North West Cambridgeshire.
Speaking to BBC Breakfast, Carling says he gets "a little frustrated" when people criticise his lack of life experience.
"No-one has explained to me how being older makes you better at the job," he says.
Carling adds that he hopes his time in Parliament will show young people are "just as capable" as anyone else.
Public boarding school followed by Cambridge Uni, yeah I can see how that's all the experience a Labour MP needs. :lol: