2024 General Election

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The £ is up 0.01% against the Euro though and 0.1% against the dollar, we're saved! Good old Keir, never doubted him.
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Timmy wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:41 am The £ is up 0.01% against the Euro though and 0.1% against the dollar, we're saved! Good old Keir, never doubted him.
Ask yourself why the GE result, when it's already in the bag anyway, would shift exchange rates. What's changed in the market?
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gremlin wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:44 am
Timmy wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:41 am The £ is up 0.01% against the Euro though and 0.1% against the dollar, we're saved! Good old Keir, never doubted him.
Ask yourself why the GE result, when it's already in the bag anyway, would shift exchange rates. What's changed in the market?
Yeah, this outcome was effectively priced into the markets weeks if not months ago. Basically, nothing has changed, move along.
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Re: 2024 General Election

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On twitter;
ReformUK voter wrote: So 80% of people didn't vote for Labour!
Labour voter wrote: By that token 97% didnt want Reform UK
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Re: 2024 General Election

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Lads, Paisley Junior got the boot last night. His replacement is Jim Allister who stands for TUV who have links to Reform. He's worth a listen for the sheer comedy value. People actually voted for him because he said the EU were going to ban Smoky Bacon crisps. I shit you not.
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Bigjawa wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:52 pm People actually voted for him because he said the EU were going to ban Smoky Bacon crisps. I shit you not.
https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/items/827828/en
Well that's the reason the companies have spent a shit load of money changing their recipes / formulations etc. it's because they are banning certain smoke flavours
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Re: 2024 General Election

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MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:02 pm
Bigjawa wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:52 pm People actually voted for him because he said the EU were going to ban Smoky Bacon crisps. I shit you not.
https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/items/827828/en
Well that's the reason the companies have spent a shit load of money changing their recipes / formulations etc. it's because they are banning certain smoke flavours
I kno nurthing about the technical aspects. But if similar, it's why I've not bought 'smoked' bacon for years.
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Re: 2024 General Election

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Horse wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:09 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:02 pm
Bigjawa wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:52 pm People actually voted for him because he said the EU were going to ban Smoky Bacon crisps. I shit you not.
https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/items/827828/en
Well that's the reason the companies have spent a shit load of money changing their recipes / formulations etc. it's because they are banning certain smoke flavours
I kno nurthing about the technical aspects. But if similar, it's why I've not bought 'smoked' bacon for years.
In general, there may be an elevated risk of harmful effects when consuming genotoxic substances. However, the likelihood of these effects emerging depends on various factors, including an individual’s genetics and dietary habits. The chance that such harmful effects would occur as a result of consumption of foods flavoured with smoke flavourings has not been investigated by EFSA. However, it is worth noting that EFSA takes a conservative approach to its assessments, meaning that we consider worst-case scenarios to estimate hazards and risks.
https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/news/smok ... lavourings
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Re: 2024 General Election

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Horse wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:09 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:02 pm
Bigjawa wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:52 pm People actually voted for him because he said the EU were going to ban Smoky Bacon crisps. I shit you not.
https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/items/827828/en
Well that's the reason the companies have spent a shit load of money changing their recipes / formulations etc. it's because they are banning certain smoke flavours
I kno nurthing about the technical aspects. But if similar, it's why I've not bought 'smoked' bacon for years.
Ironic as smoking is a traditional method of preservation- bacon, German sausages, salamis, hams , cheese etc.
Whilst smoke flavours can cause carcinogenic effects if consumed in huge amounts - nobody consumes anything like that amount.
Eating Smokey Bacon crisps is not going to damage you health.
The way that the favour industry gets past this is by using naturally smoked food - paprika , salt, ham rind etc which are regarded as traditional foodstuffs and can be used. And contains exactly the same carcinogens.

Oddly the EU are not banning those, or fish smokeries, or smoked garlic, or barbecues - or smoking.
How odd
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Re: 2024 General Election

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Mr Moofo wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:46 am
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:09 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:02 pm https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/items/827828/en
... banning certain smoke flavours
I kno nurthing about the technical aspects. But if similar, it's why I've not bought 'smoked' bacon for years.
Ironic as smoking is a traditional method of preservation- bacon

How odd
No contradiction if the 'smoked' bacon has never seen the inside of a smokehouse but, instead, was doused in chemicals.
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Mr Moofo wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:46 am
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:09 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:02 pm

https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/items/827828/en
Well that's the reason the companies have spent a shit load of money changing their recipes / formulations etc. it's because they are banning certain smoke flavours
I kno nurthing about the technical aspects. But if similar, it's why I've not bought 'smoked' bacon for years.
Ironic as smoking is a traditional method of preservation- bacon, German sausages, salamis, hams , cheese etc.
Whilst smoke flavours can cause carcinogenic effects if consumed in huge amounts - nobody consumes anything like that amount.
Eating Smokey Bacon crisps is not going to damage you health.
The way that the favour industry gets past this is by using naturally smoked food - paprika , salt, ham rind etc which are regarded as traditional foodstuffs and can be used. And contains exactly the same carcinogens.

Oddly the EU are not banning those, or fish smokeries, or smoked garlic, or barbecues - or smoking.
How odd
Things like polyaromatic hydrocarbons have low acute toxicity. ie you'd have to have a lot to be immediately ill. Repeated/frequent exposure is associated with carcinogenic responses. So, like many things, the less you are exposed, the lower the chances of developing a range of cancers. Probably particularly important wrt kids and junk food like crisps (and that's ignoring the fat and salt). They're not likely to eat smoked salmon and smoked bacon every day. :D
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Re: 2024 General Election

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What about the poor buggers who work in the smokey bacon crisp factory? :(

Presumably they risk ODing on bacon flavour.
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Count Steer wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:09 am
They're not likely to eat smoked salmon and smoked bacon every day. :D
I expect there are a lot of people who eat bacon very frequently.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:12 am What about the poor buggers who work in the smokey bacon crisp factory? :(

Presumably they risk ODing on bacon flavour.
They shouldn’t be eating the stock.
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Good to Angela Rayner making an effort in dressing to impress yesterday
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:12 am What about the poor buggers who work in the smokey bacon crisp factory? :(

Presumably they risk ODing on bacon flavour.
Many years ago (for irie, who likes these things quantified, this was probably very early 1980s), Bike magazine gave away scratch'n'sniff cards.

Which smelt of burnt rubber.

Apparently the factory stunk for weeks :D
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Re: 2024 General Election

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Change begins now.

It sounds like the first thing is the migrants to Rwanda scheme is axed.

What a great election result, for the young, for inclusion, the environment and the future.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:39 am Change begins now.

It sounds like the first thing is the migrants to Rwanda scheme is axed.

What a great election result, for the young, for inclusion, the environment and the future.
Apart from cancelling Rwanda I can't see much difference between the policies, Labour say they will stop the boats but no indication how. I'll be impressed if they do sort out the problem but I'm expecting them to make it worse.