Who Will You Vote For?
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I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.
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Are you implying that they sell the dream of milk and honey to gain power, only to realise that they can only work with what they've got, which ain't a lot, winging it as they go along, delivering only stale bread when they promised glorious cakes?Supermofo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:45 am I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.
Oh, come on...
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I think I'm implying people mainly realise that despite the manifestos other than little bits here and there nothing changes. So they don't rock the boat until the current mob prove so utterly incapable that they need a shoe in. The new lot come in on a wave of "Things can only get better" but do fuck all (broadly cos they can't and also people don't want much changing) and muddle through before everyone gets pissed off and votes the other mob in.gremlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:59 amAre you implying that they sell the dream of milk and honey to gain power, only to realise that they can only work with what they've got, which ain't a lot, winging it as they go along, delivering only stale bread when they promised glorious cakes?Supermofo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:45 am I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.
Oh, come on...
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The results have been announced - but I haven't seen rainbows in the skies, the new nirvana being rolled out, or peope huging in the streets.
Next issue Sir Kir is going to hav eto make some decisions about a cabinet, I wonder how many times he will change his mind
Next issue Sir Kir is going to hav eto make some decisions about a cabinet, I wonder how many times he will change his mind
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Well, there are people huging in the streets but I think that's more down to Greggs and McDonald's than the new Labour government.
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What do you reckon, end of the month for everything to be back to the perfection it was before 14 years of Torry misrule?
Or might it take a bit longer?
Or might it take a bit longer?
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Results from here were interesting. Labour got more than the two indy candidates combined, and the Lib Dems got less than the two hard line thou shalt not Christian parties*.
*One of them, I CBA to find out which, had the slogan 'Be wise, not woke'.
*One of them, I CBA to find out which, had the slogan 'Be wise, not woke'.
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With net (legal) immigration running at over 500,000 per year the country might be able to "trundle on" for a couple more years before housing/healthcare and other infrastructure suffers a final collapse. Basically finishing off the job started by 14 years of wasted Conservative government. By then Labour will be out of money, won't be pretty.Supermofo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:45 am I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?
I think the low turn out may be due to a number of factors, including:
Labour were predicted to win with a large majority, so many Labour voters thought they didn't need to bother
Tories predicted to suffer a huge defeat, so Tory voters thought they didn't need to bother
Many people of the opinion that "they're all the same", so why bother
The FPTP system has also thrown up some interesting results. Plaid Cymru get 4 seats from 195000 votes, Greens get 4 seats from 1.94 million votes, and Reform get 4 seats from 4 million votes. LibDems get 71 seats from 3.5 million votes
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Immigration is the elephant in the European room. Never thought I'd see a right wing party scoop 1/3 of the vote in France. Right wing gains across Europe whilst the main parties fiddle and people turn to those who they think are actually listening, same as times in the past. With PR here Reform would be 3rd largest party. The media focus on the 30k people who arrived by illegal boats last year whilst not looking at the total immigration of 1.2m and net of 600 odd k. It's all very messy.irie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:08 pmWith net (legal) immigration running at over 500,000 per year the country might be able to "trundle on" for a couple more years before housing/healthcare and other infrastructure suffers a final collapse. Basically finishing off the job started by 14 years of wasted Conservative government. By then Labour will be out of money, won't be pretty.Supermofo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:45 am I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.
Also interesting that's it's being mentioned that Labour lost 4 seats specifically due to the Palestine stance.
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Yeah. Not really getting that.
What do these people expect of the U.K. government? We don't really have much sway in the way Israel executes its domestic policy.
U.K. Govt.: Come on, Israel. Knock it on the head in Gaza, yeah?
Israeli govt.: No.
U.K. Govt.: Oh. O.K. then.
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She shook his hand. I thought that was the given protocol.Bustaspoke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:00 am Liz Truss result & the Downing st lettuce didn't even have the grace to congratulate the new MP.
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Why on earth it is an election issue in the when education, health, the economy, infrastructure , corruption, social mobility, wealth distribution, pot holes, food prices, post Brexit Britain are all much bigger issues. And things that a government can do something about.gremlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:22 pmYeah. Not really getting that.
What do these people expect of the U.K. government? We don't really have much sway in the way Israel executes its domestic policy.
U.K. Govt.: Come on, Israel. Knock it on the head in Gaza, yeah?
Israeli govt.: No.
U.K. Govt.: Oh. O.K. then.
Palestine and Israel - they can't.
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Fair enough,I was listening to the radio at the time & they never mentined the handshakegremlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:34 pmShe shook his hand. I thought that was the given protocol.Bustaspoke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:00 am Liz Truss result & the Downing st lettuce didn't even have the grace to congratulate the new MP.
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In fairness, it was a very quiet handshake.Bustaspoke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:50 pmFair enough,I was listening to the radio at the time & they never mentined the handshakegremlin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:34 pmShe shook his hand. I thought that was the given protocol.Bustaspoke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:00 am Liz Truss result & the Downing st lettuce didn't even have the grace to congratulate the new MP.
Should have high-fived - works better on the radio.
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Regarding 'the palestinian issue', Gorgeous George lost his seat.He only won it in February,I wonder how long the other MP's who stood on a Pro-Palestine ticket will fare?
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If I did vote, which I didn't, No Likey - No Votey, I would probably consider the Green or maybe Reform party. I think these two parties are supported by folk who want what's best for the climate/country , instead of what's best for me.
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