Who Will You Vote For?

[Supermofo]

my old constituency of North East Hertfordshire. I usually get Tory, Labour, Lib Dem and sometimes a Green candidate to choose from, it doesn't matter who I vote for the Tories always win (maybe not this year).

Nope they still won Without reform they'd have steamrollered it. I've voted Tory once since moving here but as you say doesn't seem to matter. Had hoped for a better Lib Dem/Green result but they didn't get a look in. Dunno how we ended up in Broxbourne with the boundary changes, seeing as I'm less than 2 miles from Hertford and the Hertford Council offices but there you go. Seems Hertford and Stortford went red though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/202 ... /E14001139


This is a depressing stat and says a lot about the current state of UK politics. Lowest share but still by far the biggest parties.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn09xn9 ... d6deb#post

[Supermofo]

Got this yesterday and out of date now but still nail on head. Not work friendly

[Mr. Dazzle]

Mrs. D's home area (where's she's never actually voted in a GE!) went to Reform Doesn't surprise me in the least.

Come to think of it, I've never voted in the GE at my home town either, despite voting in every GE I've been allowed to.

[Hot_Air]

I heard on a podcast that the Scum were telling their readers to vote Labour this time

Indeed, the Sun backed Labour on polling day.

[gremlin]

And after this cataclysmic change, the sun still came up*, it's still pissing down, the same old potholes are still in the roads and I'll still be paying tax and if I get burgled the police may turn up, eventually.

Any changes Labour instigate will be evolution, not revolution. Changes will be tinkering around the edges. The wheels will keep turning, albeit wiped with a different oily rag.

As you were.


*Haven't seen it today, but it's a bit lighter than at midnight, so let's give it the benefit of the doubt.

[gremlin]

On the plus side, Count Binface did alright.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/count-b ... ak-6038214

[Tricky]

This is quite a telling stat for me....


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[gremlin]

I was dismayed to find there wasn't a bumming party candidate on my ballot.

I got my pencil out and shoved my vote right up the ballot box.

[irie]

...
John Curtice: "Actually, but for the rise of the Labour Party in Scotland... we would be reporting that basically Labours vote has not changed from what it was in 2019"

Most people don't want Labour but they want the Conservatives even less

[gremlin]

Very low turn out too. Those voters who did brave to warm, sunny weather yesterday, driven more, I suspect, to get people out than to support the two main parties.

[Supermofo]

I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.

[gremlin]

I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.

Are you implying that they sell the dream of milk and honey to gain power, only to realise that they can only work with what they've got, which ain't a lot, winging it as they go along, delivering only stale bread when they promised glorious cakes?

Oh, come on...

[Supermofo]

I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.

Are you implying that they sell the dream of milk and honey to gain power, only to realise that they can only work with what they've got, which ain't a lot, winging it as they go along, delivering only stale bread when they promised glorious cakes?

Oh, come on...

I think I'm implying people mainly realise that despite the manifestos other than little bits here and there nothing changes. So they don't rock the boat until the current mob prove so utterly incapable that they need a shoe in. The new lot come in on a wave of "Things can only get better" but do fuck all (broadly cos they can't and also people don't want much changing) and muddle through before everyone gets pissed off and votes the other mob in.

[Mr Moofo]

The results have been announced - but I haven't seen rainbows in the skies, the new nirvana being rolled out, or peope huging in the streets.

Next issue Sir Kir is going to hav eto make some decisions about a cabinet, I wonder how many times he will change his mind

[Saga Lout]

The results have been announced - but I haven't seen rainbows in the skies, the new nirvana being rolled out, or peope huging in the streets...

Well, there are people huging in the streets but I think that's more down to Greggs and McDonald's than the new Labour government.

[cheb]

What do you reckon, end of the month for everything to be back to the perfection it was before 14 years of Torry misrule?

Or might it take a bit longer?

[cheb]

Results from here were interesting. Labour got more than the two indy candidates combined, and the Lib Dems got less than the two hard line thou shalt not Christian parties*.


*One of them, I CBA to find out which, had the slogan 'Be wise, not woke'.

[irie]

I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.

With net (legal) immigration running at over 500,000 per year the country might be able to "trundle on" for a couple more years before housing/healthcare and other infrastructure suffers a final collapse. Basically finishing off the job started by 14 years of wasted Conservative government. By then Labour will be out of money, won't be pretty.

[Druid]

Very low turn out too. Those voters who did brave to warm, sunny weather yesterday, driven more, I suspect, to get people out than to support the two main parties.

I think the low turn out may be due to a number of factors, including:
Labour were predicted to win with a large majority, so many Labour voters thought they didn't need to bother
Tories predicted to suffer a huge defeat, so Tory voters thought they didn't need to bother
Many people of the opinion that "they're all the same", so why bother

The FPTP system has also thrown up some interesting results. Plaid Cymru get 4 seats from 195000 votes, Greens get 4 seats from 1.94 million votes, and Reform get 4 seats from 4 million votes. LibDems get 71 seats from 3.5 million votes

[Supermofo]

I think the result tells the same story that 1997 and 2010 did. Basically the country trundles on with whoever is in charge until people get (more) pissed off with them and hoof them out. They'll go with the oppo until the same happens 10 years or so later and vote them out.

With net (legal) immigration running at over 500,000 per year the country might be able to "trundle on" for a couple more years before housing/healthcare and other infrastructure suffers a final collapse. Basically finishing off the job started by 14 years of wasted Conservative government. By then Labour will be out of money, won't be pretty.

Immigration is the elephant in the European room. Never thought I'd see a right wing party scoop 1/3 of the vote in France. Right wing gains across Europe whilst the main parties fiddle and people turn to those who they think are actually listening, same as times in the past. With PR here Reform would be 3rd largest party. The media focus on the 30k people who arrived by illegal boats last year whilst not looking at the total immigration of 1.2m and net of 600 odd k. It's all very messy.

Also interesting that's it's being mentioned that Labour lost 4 seats specifically due to the Palestine stance.