Who Will You Vote For?

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Party?

Labour
17
31%
Conservative
4
7%
UKIP
0
No votes
Reform UK
11
20%
Lib Dems
7
13%
Greens
3
5%
Iccy's Bumming Hat Party
13
24%
 
Total votes: 55

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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
He's having a pop at Irie.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:26 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:25 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am

Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
I'm running an Apathy Workshop. Who wants to come? ;)
I think about it....

Will there be biscuits?
If I can be bothered, yes.
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
Nonsense.
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Pirahna wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:28 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
He's having a pop at Irie.
Of course he is, merely trying to provoke a Image
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:41 am
Pirahna wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:28 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
He's having a pop at Irie.
Of course he is, merely trying to provoke a Image
Not something you'd ever do, of course? :)
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:39 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
Nonsense.
That's you told. Now get back in your box.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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You're all a bit fucking weird.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:39 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
Nonsense.
I'm genuinely interested in how and why you, and possibly others, would spend so much time and effort expressing so much vitriol about the national situation, and then, when you get an, admittedly miniscule, opportunity to do something to adjust the status quo, you completely ignore it.

Ok I tend to drift along the sidelines of these political discussions, but it seems odd to me that someone with so much to contribute to the discussions isn't going to contribute to the real thing.

:eh:

It seems to me that voter apathy is something that has contributed to the current clusterfuck, so why would you contribute to that?
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gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:30 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:26 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:25 am

I'm running an Apathy Workshop. Who wants to come? ;)
I think about it....

Will there be biscuits?
If I can be bothered, yes.
It would probably clash with my pessimists meeting.
Even bland can be a type of character :wave:
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Horse wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:43 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:30 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:26 am

I think about it....

Will there be biscuits?
If I can be bothered, yes.
It would probably clash with my pessimists meeting.
Well that's just bound to ruin it, then. Probably no point at all in trying to move the date... :thumbdown:
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gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:56 am
Horse wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:43 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:30 am

If I can be bothered, yes.
It would probably clash with my pessimists meeting.
Well that's just bound to ruin it, then. Probably no point at all in trying to move the date... :thumbdown:
Delay might work for the Procrastination Society, but since they merged with the Prevaricators there's no chance of getting confirmation.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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Horse wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:05 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:56 am
Horse wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:43 am

It would probably clash with my pessimists meeting.
Well that's just bound to ruin it, then. Probably no point at all in trying to move the date... :thumbdown:
Delay might work for the Procrastination Society, but since they merged with the Prevaricators there's no chance of getting confirmation.
We'll see.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:13 am ... when you get an, admittedly miniscule, opportunity to do something to adjust the status quo, you completely ignore it.
...
To the contrary, in the current situation making a conscious decision not to cast a vote is indeed a valid action intended change the "status quo". Not miniscule if/when large numbers of the electorate make the same decision. Which I think will probably be the case.
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:36 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:13 am ... when you get an, admittedly miniscule, opportunity to do something to adjust the status quo, you completely ignore it.
...
To the contrary, in the current situation making a conscious decision not to cast a vote is indeed a valid action intended change the "status quo". Not miniscule if/when large numbers of the electorate make the same decision. Which I think will probably be the case.
I disagree completely, how does that change the status quo at all?

All it does is tell whatever party that gets into power that they've got carte-blanche to do whatever they like because no-one is going to stop them. It says the non-voters can't be arsed to take an interest so the politicians can be as corrupt as they want and there will be no repercussions.

I simply don't understand how anyone can think that's a good idea.
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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:44 pm
irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:36 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:13 am ... when you get an, admittedly miniscule, opportunity to do something to adjust the status quo, you completely ignore it.
...
To the contrary, in the current situation making a conscious decision not to cast a vote is indeed a valid action intended change the "status quo". Not miniscule if/when large numbers of the electorate make the same decision. Which I think will probably be the case.
I disagree completely.
Unsurprising.
I simply don't understand how anyone can think that's a good idea.
Ditto.
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What it says.


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It's worth remembering people that under FPTP we only have the illusion of Democracy... Here is a full list of all the European countries that still use FPTP rather than proportional representation...

-Belarus
-United Kingdom

Two kleptocracies controlled by the Oligarchy... Oh what joy!

So as much as I want the Tories out, if I continue to support the FPTP system just by voting tactically, then I can't really complain that they don't abolish FPTP can I...

I shall be fucking glad when this is all over tomorrow, and we can go on living being told what to do, how to act, who not to upset, and how much poorer I am every single year as a result of governmental economists lying through their teeth about real world inflation and interest rates all whilst ignoring fiscal drag, rather than enjoying the illusion that I can make a difference at all even for a single day!
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mboy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:58 pm I shall be fucking glad when this is all over tomorrow, a
You're not alone... however i suspect this will continue :D
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gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:25 am I'm running an Apathy Workshop. Who wants to come? ;)
Me please!

The false hope that my vote matters or that anyone will actually make any meaningful change to the status quo is eating me up inside!
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Yep...go vote and the bandwagon continues. Bouncing from one to the other, based on bullshit. Nothing will ever change.

Massive no vote 50% + puts massive pressure for system change. Never happen though. 🤷‍♂️
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