Who Will You Vote For?

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Labour
17
31%
Conservative
4
7%
UKIP
0
No votes
Reform UK
11
20%
Lib Dems
7
13%
Greens
3
5%
Iccy's Bumming Hat Party
13
24%
 
Total votes: 55

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Re: Who Will You Vote For?

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cheb wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:56 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:20 am
mangocrazy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:44 pm

It would be refreshing to see the 'proceeds of crime' legislation being used on white collar criminals for a change...
Without derailing this thread, proving that any crime has been committed would be nigh on impossible. In a similar vein to the financial crash, CEOs of banks simply couldn't be prosecuted as there was nothing on the statute books to nab them for.
More value in standing in a storm and pissing into the wind.

We need more laws then. These guilty people must be punished.
Bring in as many as you want. Laws cannot be applied retrospectively.
And if we're gonna start a Banana Republic and start spurious kangaroo courts...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl55lp79dzno

Who's up against the wall for that debacle?
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Felix wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:19 am Voting for no one. After throwing a dart it my postal vote slip i put it in the envelope only for it to return to me two days later. I put the address slip in the wrong way round :lol: :lol:
I suggest two new forum rules:

If you don't vote, you can't post on political matters.

If you do vote, you can post on the condition you don't keep harping on, and on, and on, ad infinitum, like some sort of deranged, delirious parrot with a political leaning. :thumbup:
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gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:41 am
cheb wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:56 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:20 am

Without derailing this thread, proving that any crime has been committed would be nigh on impossible. In a similar vein to the financial crash, CEOs of banks simply couldn't be prosecuted as there was nothing on the statute books to nab them for.
More value in standing in a storm and pissing into the wind.

We need more laws then. These guilty people must be punished.
Bring in as many as you want. Laws cannot be applied retrospectively.
And if we're gonna start a Banana Republic and start spurious kangaroo courts...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl55lp79dzno

Who's up against the wall for that debacle?
Then we bring in a law that says they can. Simples.

The storage looks like a standard fuck up rather than a conspiracy. If we are going to prosecute for fuck ups we're going to need a bigger law court.

I like the concept of a life simulator, you put in your plan and what you know will happen and press the go button. If it what you said doesn't happen it triggers the pistol pointed at the back of your head.
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Felix wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:19 am Voting for no one. After throwing a dart it my postal vote slip i put it in the envelope only for it to return to me two days later. I put the address slip in the wrong way round :lol: :lol:
Before leaving for Brittany on 29th we shredded our postal votes because we couldn't bring ourselves to vote for any of the dodgy fuckers on offer.

No doubt Labour will hail the seemingly inevitable landslide as a massive vote of confidence in them whereas in reality they're currently a bit less shitter than the other alternatives. But I'm confident that Labour will correct that position within a year or two. ;)
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:52 am No doubt Labour will hail the seemingly inevitable landslide as a massive vote of confidence in them whereas in reality they're currently a bit less shitter than the other alternatives. But I'm confident that Labour will correct that position within a year or two. ;)
Console yourself with the thought that while the choices on offer here don't exactly set the pulses racing, they're nowhere near as bad as those on offer on the other side of the Atlantic.
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:52 am
Felix wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:19 am Voting for no one. After throwing a dart it my postal vote slip i put it in the envelope only for it to return to me two days later. I put the address slip in the wrong way round :lol: :lol:
Before leaving for Brittany on 29th we shredded our postal votes because we couldn't bring ourselves to vote for any of the dodgy fuckers on offer.

No doubt Labour will hail the seemingly inevitable landslide as a massive vote of confidence in them whereas in reality they're currently a bit less shitter than the other alternatives. But I'm confident that Labour will correct that position within a year or two. ;)
I'm hoping a good trashing in Scotland will give the SNP the clear mandate they are always banging on about, they will take it as a sign that nobody wants independence and disband.
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:52 am
Felix wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:19 am Voting for no one. After throwing a dart it my postal vote slip i put it in the envelope only for it to return to me two days later. I put the address slip in the wrong way round :lol: :lol:
Before leaving for Brittany on 29th we shredded our postal votes because we couldn't bring ourselves to vote for any of the dodgy fuckers on offer.

No doubt Labour will hail the seemingly inevitable landslide as a massive vote of confidence in them whereas in reality they're currently a bit less shitter than the other alternatives. But I'm confident that Labour will correct that position within a year or two. ;)
So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
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weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
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weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Can't we just pretend? It might just stop the endless bickering and broken record diatribe. :thumbup:
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
I'm running an Apathy Workshop. Who wants to come? ;)
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gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:25 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
I'm running an Apathy Workshop. Who wants to come? ;)
I think about it....

Will there be biscuits?
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weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
He's having a pop at Irie.
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:26 am
gremlin wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:25 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am

Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
I'm running an Apathy Workshop. Who wants to come? ;)
I think about it....

Will there be biscuits?
If I can be bothered, yes.
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Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
Nonsense.
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Pirahna wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:28 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:20 am So, now that you've denied yourself the opportunity to make your voice heard and take part in the national democratic process, are you going to do the same in here?
Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
He's having a pop at Irie.
Of course he is, merely trying to provoke a Image
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:41 am
Pirahna wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:28 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
He's having a pop at Irie.
Of course he is, merely trying to provoke a Image
Not something you'd ever do, of course? :)
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:39 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
Nonsense.
That's you told. Now get back in your box.
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You're all a bit fucking weird.
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irie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:39 am
Rockburner wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:21 am

Why ? It's a completely different thing. Having an opinion/discussion is a completely different thing?
Exactly: i was opening a discussion.

It's an interesting concept, having an opinion about something versus doing something about it.
Nonsense.
I'm genuinely interested in how and why you, and possibly others, would spend so much time and effort expressing so much vitriol about the national situation, and then, when you get an, admittedly miniscule, opportunity to do something to adjust the status quo, you completely ignore it.

Ok I tend to drift along the sidelines of these political discussions, but it seems odd to me that someone with so much to contribute to the discussions isn't going to contribute to the real thing.

:eh:

It seems to me that voter apathy is something that has contributed to the current clusterfuck, so why would you contribute to that?
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