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wheelnut wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:03 pm
irie wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:52 pm So what?
Think of it as a messy divorce. If you were never married to someone in the first place then there’s no issues.

I read a report yesterday about net investment into the uk from other countries- pre brexit it was +200 billion. Last year it was -200 billion.
That has absolutely nothing to do with SL's post that pointed out that:
The European Union ≠ Europe.

The UK is in Europe, it is outside the EU.
Interestingly, I read today that that the LSE is now larger than the Paris Bourse. But then again, so what? Useless soundbites.
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irie wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:07 pm
wheelnut wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:03 pm
irie wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:52 pm So what?
Think of it as a messy divorce. If you were never married to someone in the first place then there’s no issues.

I read a report yesterday about net investment into the uk from other countries- pre brexit it was +200 billion. Last year it was -200 billion.
That has absolutely nothing to do with SL's post
Maybe not, but it has everything to do with demographic's and my earlier post (and your response thereto) that you conveniently omitted to mention.
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demographic wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:36 pm
demographic wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:10 pm Is this another of those "Everyone outside Europe" things?
And now we're outside Europe and realising we're not so special after all...
The European Union ≠ Europe.

The UK is in Europe, it is outside the EU.
Well, at least pedantry is one step up from claiming to be the victim of decisions you voted for so things are looking up.
The road to personal responsibility can sometimes be long and hard eh?
It's simply a matter of geography. The EU is in Europe, It is a large part of Europe but it isn't the whole of Europe. Sometimes people forget that and need to be reminded.
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People might also be surprised to know that not all government work happens inside 10 Downing Street!

Amazing I know, but people need reminding.
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irie wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:07 pm
Interestingly, I read today that that the LSE is now larger than the Paris Bourse. But then again, so what? Useless soundbites.
It always was bigger - until 2022. IIRC it was considerably bigger. It's now bigger because Paris has dropped because of the uncertainty around the French election. Uncertainty about the UK election doesn't seem to be such an issue. :D

'The LSE had been Europe’s largest stock market for many years before November 2022 when it was overtaken.

Analysts at the time blamed LSE’s performance on the fallout from former Prime Minister Liz Truss’ mini-Budget, a weak pound, recession fears and Brexit.
'

Meanwhile it appears companies are planning listing in eg New York instead of here while we contemplate listing a Chinese fast fashion company (Shein) that others have swerved (They are being encouraged by our Chancellor).

All is not so rosy at the LSE.
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So if I have a UK passport and a french residency visa, do I need ETIAS to travel anywhere else in the EU?
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:09 am People might also be surprised to know that not all government work happens inside 10 Downing Street!

Amazing I know, but people need reminding.

Some people might also be surprised to know that people voting for something specific is not the same as other people supposedly enacting that specific thing.

Amazing I know, but some people will never grasp that despite regular reminders. I think that they are the same people that still think "Let's do . . . something" is a promise. Of course, it's possible that English isn't their first language. Or they're thick. Or they are bitter and twisted over the fact that some people had an opinion different to theirs. Whatever.
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Count Steer wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:35 am
irie wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:07 pm
Interestingly, I read today that that the LSE is now larger than the Paris Bourse. But then again, so what? Useless soundbites.
It always was bigger - until 2022. IIRC it was considerably bigger. It's now bigger because Paris has dropped because of the uncertainty around the French election. Uncertainty about the UK election doesn't seem to be such an issue. :D

'The LSE had been Europe’s largest stock market for many years before November 2022 when it was overtaken.

Analysts at the time blamed LSE’s performance on the fallout from former Prime Minister Liz Truss’ mini-Budget, a weak pound, recession fears and Brexit.
'

Meanwhile it appears companies are planning listing in eg New York instead of here while we contemplate listing a Chinese fast fashion company (Shein) that others have swerved (They are being encouraged by our Chancellor).

All is not so rosy at the LSE.
Also depends on exchange rates used for the comparison ...
irie wrote:... But then again, so what? Useless soundbites.
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DefTrap wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:51 am So if I have a UK passport and a french residency visa, do I need ETIAS to travel anywhere else in the EU?
No. You show your residency with your passport and you're good to go. But please check with official guidelines before travelling.

I have an EU passport so it doesn't affect me.
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Just read that as yet, the biometric doo dabs in France aren't FFP, and unlikely to be by next year.
They've been knocking on about this for several years now, however the majority of brits know nothing about it, and the country that is the single largest entry point into the eu really cba with it.............like we never left isn't it?
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Sadlonelygit wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:32 am Just read that as yet, the biometric doo dabs in France aren't FFP, and unlikely to be by next year.
They've been knocking on about this for several years now, however the majority of brits know nothing about it, and the country that is the single largest entry point into the eu really cba with it.............like we never left isn't it?
I know that the Fronch douane get super finger waggy if you don't immediately present your residency card with your passport on entry/exit.
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7€ for three years and a 30sec application time.

I'm never visiting the EU again, they're so set on making it difficult for me!
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Sadlonelygit wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:32 am Just read that as yet, the biometric doo dabs in France aren't FFP, and unlikely to be by next year.
They've been knocking on about this for several years now, however the majority of brits know nothing about it, and the country that is the single largest entry point into the eu really cba with it.............like we never left isn't it?
Some friends that fly out regularly through the winter said that they have to do the biometric/photo thingies from 5th October this year. So maybe it is starting?
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DefTrap wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:36 am
Sadlonelygit wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:32 am Just read that as yet, the biometric doo dabs in France aren't FFP, and unlikely to be by next year.
They've been knocking on about this for several years now, however the majority of brits know nothing about it, and the country that is the single largest entry point into the eu really cba with it.............like we never left isn't it?
I know that the Fronch douane get super finger waggy if you don't immediately present your residency card with your passport on entry/exit.
Tis cos so many brits didn't then got pissy cos their passports got stamped!! :lol:
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:50 am 7€ for three years and a 30sec application time.

I'm never visiting the EU again, they're so set on making it difficult for me!
There's a principle here! :angry-cussingblack:

Link please. :? :D
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Taipan wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 11:08 am
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:50 am 7€ for three years and a 30sec application time.

I'm never visiting the EU again, they're so set on making it difficult for me!
There's a principle here! :angry-cussingblack:

Link please. :? :D
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https://etias.com/etias-application
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Talking of international travel within Europe, do I need a Passport to go to Ireland? I know there is no 'hard border' within Ireland, but I will be going direct from the UK to Eire.
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ChrisW wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:51 pm Here's the EU site, too:

https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/w ... d-apply_en
Over 70s don't need to pay the €7 fee, either! That will make a massive difference to the holiday budget. I can have an extra bottle of wine!

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In case anyone doesn't know about ees, here's a link to the EU website. https://travel-europe.europa.eu/ees/gen ... rmation_en After a number of years delay it is intended to start in October but how it's going to work still isn't clear in some places of entry.