Automatic Beemers (ASA - Automated Shift Assistant)

[KungFooBob]

Opens up some more options for Tiepins spazzy knees...

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/a ... anguage=en

[Mr Moofo]

Is changing gear such a big issue

You have had to roll 200kg bike out into the drive, put on various clothing with body armour, and a helmet. You are going to "Ride to Live, Live to Ride" though wind, rain and snow. Fill up every 140 miles. Get hot as fuck in the summer, cold as fuck in the winter. Fumble for everything at toll booths, spend hours looking of M/C only parking, only to have some sewer scrote angle grind your mega heavy lock off, and nick your bike from Euston Sq.


Not exactly Hunter S Thompson is it?

[Dickyboy]

Might make pillion riding more comfortable, certainly give it a go if it made wifey happier to ride with me.

[KungFooBob]

My GS has Gearchange Assistant (or something like that) which is their name for a quick shifter. I think using the quick shifter does make it smoother for a pillion on the upshifts, I'm not sold on on the down changes,

[Taipan]

Is changing gear such a big issue

For me it is. I can probably ride a manual bike for out of town, country blasts no problem. However, whilst my mechanical knees bend fine, they don't really like rotational movement. So turning in your foot to toe the gear lever up and down repeatedly becomes increasingly uncomfortable. So for a commuter, an auto is pretty essential for me and probably other owners of spazzy knees.

As a sort of aside, i'm going to get my cb1000r working and MOT'd this week and it'll be the first time I've ridden a manual bike in some time. I intend to sell it unless something about it strikes me as extraordinary, but i really cant see any manual bike striking me as so as i simply prefer riding a DCT.

[dern]

So they looked at the cost of developing a dct system and then bought a load of solenoids off eBay. Nice.

[Scootabout]

Interesting. I was thinking it's similar to the Honda e-clutch, but on Honda's website it says,
"In comparison [to DCT], Honda E-Clutch only automates the clutch operation, making it a manual transmission system with the rider always in control of gear shifting."
https://global.honda/en/tech/Honda_E-Cl ... 20shifting.

So it seems that the BMW system goes further, automating the gear change if you want it to.

Is it a reinvention of the FJR 1300A system, or did that work differently?

[gremlin]

"emotionally important dynamics of shifting."

[The Spin Doctor]

"emotionally important dynamics of shifting."

I've just been told on my FB page that "I would never own an electric motorcycle because they are single speed and shifting gear and using the clutch is such an important part of the motorcycle experience". I guess they never rode around London all day. I borrowed a DCT Honda in Los Angeles. Frankly two hours of stop-start traffic later, and I was very happy not to have had to change gear via a clutch.

[The Spin Doctor]

Apparently KTM have just shown off a clutchless prototype... who'd a thought it?