Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Lovely lovely ride yesterday... the G-160 is really nice to ride 1 handed
2020-09-15_07-57-58 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
2020-09-15_07-57-58 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Had an issue this morning, my rear on the G-160 felt too squat. I then noticed even when just at it's own weight it was 40% + on sag, with me on there it was 60% or more.
Checked the pressure and still had 210psi in there, so should have been OK.
WHen i let let all the pressure out it was unable to extend. I could pull it out about 25% max.
So i wipped the big O-ring off (after dropping the pressure out of course) and got a decent 'whoosh' when i removed the air can outer. THen all was good.
Pumped it back up and all seems fine now...
Just one of those things ?
Checked the pressure and still had 210psi in there, so should have been OK.
WHen i let let all the pressure out it was unable to extend. I could pull it out about 25% max.
So i wipped the big O-ring off (after dropping the pressure out of course) and got a decent 'whoosh' when i removed the air can outer. THen all was good.
Pumped it back up and all seems fine now...
Just one of those things ?
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Had a chat with TFTuned who were exceptionally helpful, however it seems it's 90% likely it's one of a couple of issues that actually end up being more expensive that replacing the shock with a new one.
So all in all, a bit daft and pointless.
So with that in mind, this is now winging it's way over from Germany.
So all in all, a bit daft and pointless.
So with that in mind, this is now winging it's way over from Germany.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Let me know how well it works - always had Fox and Cane Creek Rear shocks ....
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
I prefer Fox myself too. I'd have gone Fox DHX but there's issues with mounting them on the Whytes as the top mount is slightly wider in some part, so you have to file off some paint etc to get it all in... I wasn't happy doing that and the Monarch Plus RC3 will slot straight in. So made most sense to go with that i thought.
Anyway, it's now showing as shipped from Germany via DHL, i'm hoping i get it for the weekend as we had a day out planned. I could in theory take the wifes bike though.
Anyway, it's now showing as shipped from Germany via DHL, i'm hoping i get it for the weekend as we had a day out planned. I could in theory take the wifes bike though.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rock-Shox-Mo ... 2749.l2649
£265 posted. Comes in about 50% of CRCs price.
Funny thing is, i actually think i could steal his and fit his to mine potentially.
Mine is a 216x63 with his being 216 x 57mm
I won't...but i could
£265 posted. Comes in about 50% of CRCs price.
Funny thing is, i actually think i could steal his and fit his to mine potentially.
Mine is a 216x63 with his being 216 x 57mm
I won't...but i could
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
shock arrives tomorrow, so will be straight on and out at lunch i hope
I do need to look a bit more into the negative air spacer bands though.
I do need to look a bit more into the negative air spacer bands though.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
SO this is the separator between positive and negative air chambers it seems, i just need to work out which is which and which one i want how many bands in
BAsic and strange colours, but shows the answer well
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Shock arrived in great time from Germany.
Came with mounting hardware in both ends, but i only needed the top set. So pressed out the bottom hardware/bushing
2020-11-19_05-30-45 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Then a quick fitting of the G-160 yoke
2020-11-19_05-30-34 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Then shock in.
2020-11-19_05-30-21 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Problem now is that i either need a shock without an external reservoir or i need a lower mounting process for the water bottle.
Came with mounting hardware in both ends, but i only needed the top set. So pressed out the bottom hardware/bushing
2020-11-19_05-30-45 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Then a quick fitting of the G-160 yoke
2020-11-19_05-30-34 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Then shock in.
2020-11-19_05-30-21 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Problem now is that i either need a shock without an external reservoir or i need a lower mounting process for the water bottle.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Shockwiz was fitted. Put up to the right sort of pressure and went for a play in the woods.
Instantly jumped off the bike and set the rebound with a LOT of tortoise. I had 18 clicks of rebound to maximum hare, stuck it in the middle of that, so 9 clicks of tortoise Felt miles better straight away.
Then played in the woods on the jumps for a while to dial it in.
G160rc3+ by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
Instantly jumped off the bike and set the rebound with a LOT of tortoise. I had 18 clicks of rebound to maximum hare, stuck it in the middle of that, so 9 clicks of tortoise Felt miles better straight away.
Then played in the woods on the jumps for a while to dial it in.
G160rc3+ by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Needed a bit more pressure in the shock as on a couple of jumps I was bottoming out
But feels great
But feels great
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Trying out a slightly stiffer setup with 3 bands/spacers and a little more air.
G160 3 spacers. Less poppy by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
G160 3 spacers. Less poppy by Steve Weeks, on Flickr
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It got more complex from here as the bottles still didn't fit. The smaller bottles I have are Decathlon 500ml.
https://www.evanscycles.com/brand/hoy/4 ... tle-840392
So went with a couple of these for a try and yes they fit fine. Well, the fit with not a lot of clearance, but can get them in and out on the move ok enough.
They're a bit small for epic days out but I'll need the camelback for them anyhow. But for local stuff it'll do the job.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
My lad came into the garage this morning with
"daddy, can we get these pedals off my bike, i don't like them as much as the blue ones (Nukeproof Neutron) and i can't bunny hop in them as well."
So i have the same pedals on my G-160 so we went to remove them... However, the cranks barely moved as we went to do it ! Eeeeeek. It's a GXP bottom bracket and over a year old so that was my first thought. But as always i went to see the quickest options first and whipped the chain link out, span the cranks and smooth as silk with no chain fitted. Bottom jockey wheel, fine, top jockey wheel, nope, that's completely seized. So waiting for a pair of 626RS bearings to arrive now and will get them replaced. Checked the price of new jockey wheel and they're £33 a pair !!!! Which is a LOT more than £4.00 for a pair of bearings.
Either way, he's now stolen my pedals and i'll have to buy a new set LOL.
"daddy, can we get these pedals off my bike, i don't like them as much as the blue ones (Nukeproof Neutron) and i can't bunny hop in them as well."
So i have the same pedals on my G-160 so we went to remove them... However, the cranks barely moved as we went to do it ! Eeeeeek. It's a GXP bottom bracket and over a year old so that was my first thought. But as always i went to see the quickest options first and whipped the chain link out, span the cranks and smooth as silk with no chain fitted. Bottom jockey wheel, fine, top jockey wheel, nope, that's completely seized. So waiting for a pair of 626RS bearings to arrive now and will get them replaced. Checked the price of new jockey wheel and they're £33 a pair !!!! Which is a LOT more than £4.00 for a pair of bearings.
Either way, he's now stolen my pedals and i'll have to buy a new set LOL.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Quick bit of fitting and the jockey is back on the bike and we're up and running again. Not sure it matter much as it's due to be cold and snowy for a few days now, but i do like having it back and sorted
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Winter mud has once again taken it's toll.
Was doing some spannering on the brakes on the G-160 and noticed the headset was rubbish... not really bad and not bad enough that most would care, but it's an £8.99 bearing, so no biggy to swap it, i've got 2 spare bearings and it was <10 mins job, so all done and dusted.
Was doing some spannering on the brakes on the G-160 and noticed the headset was rubbish... not really bad and not bad enough that most would care, but it's an £8.99 bearing, so no biggy to swap it, i've got 2 spare bearings and it was <10 mins job, so all done and dusted.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
Well that's a pain in the arse. Went out this morning with the boy and noticed my pedals were getting strikes at times, yup, you guessed it, same issue, shock fooked. !!!!
Came home, stripped, checked, aired, released, aired... Yup, still dead..
Nightmare. Pinged off an email to the supplier i bought it from, so waiting to see what they say now.
Came home, stripped, checked, aired, released, aired... Yup, still dead..
Nightmare. Pinged off an email to the supplier i bought it from, so waiting to see what they say now.
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Re: Whyte G-160, the big bad bouncy thing!
LBS had a Whyte in recently with a popped shock, they think Whytes have a weird/bad swingarm/shock action which means air shocks get packed with spacers to make them work properly and this compounded with the swingarm/shock interaction leads to failure (well that’s their theory and they seem to know their stuff).
The keep showing me EXT shocks and forks (as expensive as motorbike shocks!!!)
The keep showing me EXT shocks and forks (as expensive as motorbike shocks!!!)
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