The video has gone so I haven't seen it but surely everyone at a track day tries to get in a slow a group as possible. That's the easiest way to win.KungFooBob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:21 pm...
Looks like a case of a quick rider being in totally the wrong group.
A Trackway? In what universe does that exist?Potter wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:02 pm The worst standard riding/driving I've seen on trackways are at some of the worlds iconic tracks, you get rich people that aren't really into bikes/cars but they want to do a trackway somewhere on a superbike/supercar, so they get it arranged and off they go. I've seen it at Yas Marina for example on a factory day when the importer bought some bikes along and let people have a go.
I've seen a few things in the UK but generally I haven't seen anything too outrageous, I do think some people take it too seriously, they have motorhomes and kit that wouldn't look out of place at a BSB round, but I suppose it's up to them what they spend their money on.
Andoid can't even spill Android.
Android can, CJ can't.
I saw what's supposed to be her name when I was trying to find the footage (it sounded a bit forrin) but can't find it again.
The only track day crash I've had was as a result of someone keeping his mirrors on, and using them to block me as I was going for the overtake. We were heading down past the start/finish at Oulton and I was closing on him as we approached Old Hall. I remember thinking, shall I stick it up the inside? but decided to be a good boy and wait for the exit. As we came out of Old Hall I went to ride round the outside of him, but the fucker moved across on me and blocked me. I should have switched back to the inside and gone past him that way but I hadn't expected that kind of move at all and was thrown by the whole thing. Consequently I was on totally the wrong line (out near the LH kerb as we were heading down to Cascades), didn't think I'd make the corner if I tried to turn the bike so just banged on the brakes, ran out of track, went into the gravel trap and baled out before I hit the crash barriers doing about 10mph. I was absolutely livid...Potter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:30 pm That looks like a strange crash, it looks like the assassin didn't realise there is a kink, the other fella started to adjust for the kink and she ran right into the side of him.
I'd be pretty unhappy if it was me.
But I suppose you've got to expect it when you put people on powerful motorbikes on a track.
One thing I never understood was telling people to take mirrors off, when I'm on a track with inexperienced people then I keep my mirrors, it's saved me at least once when I spotted a bloke on a green CBR600 coming in way too hot and I pulled to the left instead of tipping in for the right hand bend, if I hadn't he would have T-boned me, as it was I pulled left and he went straight on into the run-off gravel.
It was absolutely intentional and it was a full on block, on his original line he had lots of space out left. Somebody I know spoke to him after the incident and he said 'you don't pass in the corners, only on the straight', so he clearly knew exactly what he was doing.Potter wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:36 pmDid he actually block you, or just drift wide on Old Hall, that bend can be deceptive and if you hit it too fast then you need all the space on the left to recover.mangocrazy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:28 pm The only track day crash I've had was as a result of someone keeping his mirrors on, and using them to block me as I was going for the overtake. We were heading down past the start/finish at Oulton and I was closing on him as we approached Old Hall. I remember thinking, shall I stick it up the inside? but decided to be a good boy and wait for the exit. As we came out of Old Hall I went to ride round the outside of him, but the fucker moved across on me and blocked me. I should have switched back to the inside and gone past him that way but I hadn't expected that kind of move at all and was thrown by the whole thing. Consequently I was on totally the wrong line (out near the LH kerb as we were heading down to Cascades), didn't think I'd make the corner if I tried to turn the bike so just banged on the brakes, ran out of track, went into the gravel trap and baled out before I hit the crash barriers doing about 10mph. I was absolutely livid...
There is a lot of distance between Old Hall and Cascades, if it was a track day I'd have throttled back, let him go and then moved across and taken up the right line for the left hander at the bottom.
I wasn't there, so it's easy to be an armchair expert, but I was surprised that someone would be petty enough to try and block you and then hold you on the wrong line all the way down through the Avenue.
I didn't report him, as I was in the Medical Centre getting treatment for a fractured shoulder bone. But he was told in no uncertain terms what people thought of his actions. The corner marshals saw it all and reported it. What pisses me off the most was I was trying to do the right thing. I should have just stuffed it up the inside.
Bollox. Just wait 2 or 3 seconds and carry on.mangocrazy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:03 pmI didn't report him, as I was in the Medical Centre getting treatment for a fractured shoulder bone. But he was told in no uncertain terms what people thought of his actions. The corner marshals saw it all and reported it. What pisses me off the most was I was trying to do the right thing. I should have just stuffed it up the inside.
I was waiting for you to chip in. I wasn't disappointed.Yorick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:07 pmBollox. Just wait 2 or 3 seconds and carry on.mangocrazy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:03 pm I didn't report him, as I was in the Medical Centre getting treatment for a fractured shoulder bone. But he was told in no uncertain terms what people thought of his actions. The corner marshals saw it all and reported it. What pisses me off the most was I was trying to do the right thing. I should have just stuffed it up the inside.
I've seen hundreds of these things while instructing.
Trackday riders act badly to what happens.
They're not used to it.
But par for the course, you'll get on your high horse and tell me you know more about trackdays than me.
I'll applaud in advance
I had 'em on the brakes...Bigjawa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:52 am The no overtaking on corners is a bit crap if you're on a slower bike, last one I did you got stuck behind Barry R1 and his ilk because you couldn't carry speed into the corner and he left you for dead on the straights.
I'm no Doohan but the amount of people teetering round bends that you couldn't get past because of the rules was the deal breaker for me.
I had that at Castle Coombe. I wasn't a novice on track but didn't know that track at all - scared the pants off me the first session, when it happened again in the second I gave up. The difference in speed was terrifying - to me!! I know many wouldn't be but on a new to me track for some reason I couldn't deal with itThe Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:11 pm I did a track session at the Paul Rock-hard and thought I was going quick mid-corner dragging a knee. Then a guy came past me on a race bike on slicks. I thought I'd accidentally selected reverse!
