Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:07 am
This does look like great fun and with a 270kw charger, you can get 200 mile range in 20 minutes! Trouble is there are only four 270kw chargers in the country at present! That aside by fook that looks quick!
Nah, old news.
There are tens, if not hundreds, of 350kW chargers out there now. And that's the old model Taycan, the newer one charges faster (320kW), plus has a way bigger ranger.
Rapid chargers are er....rapidly....being rolled out on loads of countries. Info is regularly updated here, although it's actually quite tricky to find out exact info, partly because private suppliers don't necessarily want you to be aware of rival's services.
According to the RAC, who analysed data from charger locator service Zapmap, just 46 out of 119 services in England met the six charger target. However, Leicester Forest East was found not to not have any at all.
https://placetoplug.com/en/charging-sta ... S_Services
And the ones they do have aren't working (I assume that map is up to date, I was there last week when they weren't working), the look on drivers faces as they pulled in to find them out of order was not pleasant
I was Chieveley services on the M4/A34 last week, they've got bloody loads! I didn't count how many exactly, but they had at least three big groups of chargers.
The car park was quite literally buzzing with electricity.
Edit:
1x 11kW
4x 50kW
5x 100kW
12x 350kW
Seems to be what I can find at Cheively. So that one services has more high power charging than the "whole UK" as mentioned in that old Top Gear video.
Just having a look around - there are loads now. THere are 6x 350kW chargers just down the road (walking distance) from my house, then 6 more a mile down the road in the other direction.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:26 pm
I was Chieveley services on the M4/A34 last week, they've got bloody loads! I didn't count how many exactly, but they had at least three big groups of chargers.
The car park was quite literally buzzing with electricity.
Edit:
1x 11kW
4x 50kW
5x 100kW
12x 350kW
Seems to be what I can find at Cheively. So that one services has more high power charging than the "whole UK" as mentioned in that old Top Gear video.
Just having a look around - there are loads now. THere are 6x 350kW chargers just down the road (walking distance) from my house, then 6 more a mile down the road in the other direction.
Our town of 4000 souls has 6 x 7Kw chargers.
It's super rare for me to go anywhere where a load of chargers would be clustered together, but the past 2 times (last week and last year) they were out of order, the only ones I see consistently working is the Tesla bank @ Hopwood park
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MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:28 pm
Our town has 6 7Kw chargers.
There's more than that just outside my two local corner shops There're a couple of 7kWers just randomly on the street a couple of hundred metres from here as well.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:26 pm
I was Chieveley services on the M4/A34 last week, they've got bloody loads! I didn't count how many exactly, but they had at least three big groups of chargers.
The car park was quite literally buzzing with electricity.
Edit:
1x 11kW
4x 50kW
5x 100kW
12x 350kW
Seems to be what I can find at Cheively. So that one services has more high power charging than the "whole UK" as mentioned in that old Top Gear video.
Just having a look around - there are loads now. THere are 6x 350kW chargers just down the road (walking distance) from my house, then 6 more a mile down the road in the other direction.
That's an awful lot of load if they were all in use at the same time! I bet the nearby DNO/grid site is sweating when that lots on song.
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"Especially the lies."
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:33 pm
Maybe they think it'll go three times faster if you park it like that.
At 7kw maybe they're just hoping for a faster charge.
It's from the local 'parked like a twat' facebook group, reckoning is that it ran out of charge and was unceremoniously dumped by the recovery truck
MingtheMerciless wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:31 pm
That's an awful lot of load if they were all in use at the same time! I bet the nearby DNO/grid site is sweating when that lots on song.
Yeah I had the same thought.
TBF those banks of 350kW are all part of dedicated charging stations, rather than plonked in a Tesco carpark. It's also extremely unlikely you'd get 6 cars which can actually accept 350kW simultaneously - at least at the moment.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:35 pmIt's also extremely unlikely you'd get 6 cars which can actually accept 350kW simultaneously - at least at the moment.
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I suspect there are going to be several major casualties over the next 10 years or so. Lots of firms are going to wait and see what happens with EVs, if they're not careful that "what happens" is gonna be "you get replaced by a Chinese state sponsored enterprise".
China is very well placed to boot out the legacy European and US manufacturers during this paradigm shift. No-one was gonna buy a Dongfeng* over a Mercedes, but they might buy a BYD over a Tesla.
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