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[Wossname]

[/quote]Taipan:
A) Rather depends on if you're in a position to flip up the visor. In traffic, you don't want to lift your hand off the bar to start raising visors.....

B) .......I think we've all moved on from tape on the visors, although I did that for years. I am fortunate to ride in and out of work with the sun behind me too, so it's just everyone else's blindness.
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A couple of "issues" there for me: A) In traffic, I often open my (normal) visor when I'm at <20mph or so. I find I'm much more "in" the trafficy situation than with the visor down, without the slight feeling of isolation I can get with it closed. It also clears any misting which can be a problem when I'm going slowly. I have absolutely no problem at all with finding the odd second - no more - that opening it takes, and I expect that opening/closing a drop-down internal sunvisor would be just as quick and easy. I don't need the clutch ALL the time.

B) "we've all moved on"? I'll ignore the implication. Maybe this depends on the differences in your/my riding experience. You rarely meet direct sun because of your typical ride - fair enough. In contrast, if I leave Cornwall in the morning, it's into the (low) rising sun; if I return in the evening, it's into the (low) setting sun. It's especially a problem on clear days at this time of year. There's a reason why the sunvisors in your car are solid and not tinted/see-through - it's to actually stop the direct sun. Reducing it isn't enough - you'll still be dazzled. Try looking directly at the sun with your sunnies/reactolites on - you'll still be unable to "see" anything to the side of the bright light.

Black tape for me. Did I mention how (in)expensive it is?

[Rockburner]

Taipan:
A) Rather depends on if you're in a position to flip up the visor. In traffic, you don't want to lift your hand off the bar to start raising visors.....

B) .......I think we've all moved on from tape on the visors, although I did that for years. I am fortunate to ride in and out of work with the sun behind me too, so it's just everyone else's blindness.

A couple of "issues" there for me: A) In traffic, I often open my (normal) visor when I'm at <20mph or so. I find I'm much more "in" the trafficy situation than with the visor down, without the slight feeling of isolation I can get with it closed. It also clears any misting which can be a problem when I'm going slowly. I have absolutely no problem at all with finding the odd second - no more - that opening it takes, and I expect that opening/closing a drop-down internal sunvisor would be just as quick and easy. I don't need the clutch ALL the time.

B) "we've all moved on"? I'll ignore the implication. Maybe this depends on the differences in your/my riding experience. You rarely meet direct sun because of your typical ride - fair enough. In contrast, if I leave Cornwall in the morning, it's into the (low) rising sun; if I return in the evening, it's into the (low) setting sun. It's especially a problem on clear days at this time of year. There's a reason why the sunvisors in your car are solid and not tinted/see-through - it's to actually stop the direct sun. Reducing it isn't enough - you'll still be dazzled. Try looking directly at the sun with your sunnies/reactolites on - you'll still be unable to "see" anything to the side of the bright light.

Black tape for me. Did I mention how (in)expensive it is?

I used to have similar into the sun rides, now, having the tape is just what I'm used to and so i keep it on. I still find it very good for keeping the sun out of my eyes, all i need to do is move my head a bit.

[Horse]

Black tape for me. Did I mention how (in)expensive it is?

I can't understand TP's reluctance.

After all, he probably has several rolls of different tapes in the loft o'plenty

[Rockburner]

Black tape for me. Did I mention how (in)expensive it is?

I can't understand TP's reluctance.

After all, he probably has several rolls of different tapes in the loft o'plenty

If he's changing helmets as often as bikes, then I can understand. It's a bit of a faff to get it exactly in the right place each time.

[Skub]

Jeez. Putting sticky tape on your visor will look *gash.

Have a word with yourselves people and maintain standards please.


*Passing shop window opportunity fail.

[Rockburner]

Jeez. Putting sticky tape on your visor will look *gash.

Have a word with yourselves people and maintain standards please.


*Passing shop window opportunity fail.

I normally put it on the inside tbh, so it's not visible on dark visors. (unless the visor has an anti-fog insert, natch).

[Rockburner]

Jeez. Putting sticky tape on your visor will look *gash.

Have a word with yourselves people and maintain standards please.


*Passing shop window opportunity fail.

Actually - you could almost argue that it's "racey" : I've seen plenty of racers do the same, especially for early morning practise on the Island.

[McNab]

I took my Shoei XR1100 off the other day and wondered what all the dusty crap was in my hair. Turned out to be the foam from the lining pad. I ordered a new part from Shoei but then later checked the manufactured date on the sticker...2010. Ahh, probably time for a replacement.

Fuck me, things have changed and got expensive. Emergency removal tags, £500 for the base model Shoei, integrated Bluetooth and sunvisors, ratchet chin straps rather than double D-rings... I felt an old git in the shop today.

Anyway, the bloke was really helpful. The main criteria was that my glasses fit snug and not bounce about. Tried about 7 or 8 lids on including the Shoei GT Air 2, which would have been the closest like for like replacement, but in the end I went for a more budget model as it fitted best - the HJC F70.

I wanted a plain-ish paint scheme but needed to get a helmet today as I've got to ride into the London office tomorrow. This isn't too power ranger at least. We'll see what wind noise is like on the M25 tomorrow.

I did the same last year. I had a Shoei GT Air for years and it was getting a bit tatty so time for a change. I fully intended to get the GT Air 2 but the price was eye watering. I still felt I should get one (shoei reputation and all that) then I discovered they were only doing them with the ratchet type straps. That was a deal breaker for me and I ended up buying a Shark Spartan Carbon which I really like.

Specsavers told me car windscreens stop them working.

Yeah, I heard similar. A friend got some new glasses some years ago and splashed out for the reactalite coating for driving and was quite pissed off when they didn't change in the car

[Mr Moofo]

Tried on a carbon RPHA 70 yesterday - whilst I am XL in Shoei / Arai (though even one Arai XL I have caused bisters on my forehead because too loose and wobbling around), in the HJC I am in between XL and 2XL - the XL is very tight ( though my head measures 61 cm so it should be fine), the 2XL is more comfortable initially - but may end up too loose

Arse

Shoei Air GT3 - very nice but 500GBP upwards!

[MrLongbeard]

I think we've all moved on from tape on the visors

Think again old man, full dark race visor and 4 strips of sparky tape works like a charm

[Taipan]

I think we've all moved on from tape on the visors

Think again old man, full dark race visor and 4 strips of sparky tape works like a charm

Don’t forget, candles are still available and you don’t need that new fangled electric lighting!

[Horse]

Specsavers told me car windscreens stop them working.

Yeah, I heard similar. A friend got some new glasses some years ago and splashed out for the reactalite coating for driving and was quite pissed off when they didn't change in the car

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[Scootabout]

Sounds like magic. Too good to be true, perhaps? Has anyone tested them?

[MrLongbeard]

I think we've all moved on from tape on the visors

Think again old man, full dark race visor and 4 strips of sparky tape works like a charm

Don’t forget, candles are still available and you don’t need that new fangled electric lighting!

What in the ever living fuck has that got to do with the price of cheese ?
Problem, low sun / bright sun.
Solutions,
Sunglasses, pass I don't want to carry an extra pair of glasses, they (my tastes) ain't cheap
Transitions, pass, they don't get dark enough and don't work fast enough for me
Internal flip down visor, pass, they fog and aren't dark enough for me
Peaked helmet, pass, in my experience they're a pain the neck at M-way speeds
Race visor, job very nearly jobbed
Race visor + tape, problem solved, it just works, no fuss, no maintenance, no big outlay for a half arsed half solution

[Scootabout]

I guess we all do what works for us.....

[ajlog]

I have a photchromatic pin lock type insert for my Arai but these days my go to set-up is a Bell Moto 3 with a peak and a set of Ethen photochromic goggles.
I also have a ‘90s throw back iridium mirrored visor for sunny days for the Arai.

Neither turn as dark as a tinted visor, but a bit of nod and I can use the peak to block out direct sun with the Bell / goggles combo.

It’s just the rain and well aimed bugs that are the problem on that 10-15mm of exposed face between the chin bar and the goggles that are the problem.

[Count Steer]

Not a problem I've ever thought about much tbh. Last few helmets have all been flippy front Schuberths with drop down tinted visor. Also had a pair of Italian mirror shades with very flat metal arms that slid in nicely with the lid on for v sunny conditions. (But I scratched them I'll have to go to Siena and buy another pair ).

[The Spin Doctor]

But you're never in a total dark to light situation. Outside has constantly varying levels of light so the reaction lenses are constantly reacting! So that is a pointless comparison to a permanently dark visor.

Ever ridden into and out of a long, and totally unlit, tunnel?

I have!

[Mr Moofo]

But you're never in a total dark to light situation. Outside has constantly varying levels of light so the reaction lenses are constantly reacting! So that is a pointless comparison to a permanently dark visor.

Ever ridden into and out of a long, and totally unlit, tunnel?

I have!

Ah, a metaphor for life

[Scootabout]

Update. I have persuaded myself that I want, nay need, the Transitions Drivewear lenses, and today I wandered into my local opticians and walked out later with my wallet lighter to the tune of £365. That's for bifocal lenses, in a funky, retro 1950s style frame, which apart from being incredibly stylish (er...) seemed to give good coverage and yet fitted under the helmet (I took it with me). I could no doubt have got them cheaper online, but this way I get them properly measured up, try the frames, discuss the pros and cons etc. Plus I like this independent optician and am happy to pay a little extra to support them.

Interestingly they initially didn't seem to click with my suggestion of Drivewear, steering me instead towards the Xtractive polarised. But the latter don't really polarise behind a screen, even if they darken. They are also grey, and I like yellow/brown. I don't think they sell many Drivewear, and one reason I was given is that people often don't like the permanent tint - they never go fully clear. One forum post I saw referred to this as the 'paedo tint', which is a bit offputting, and a term I probably won't go round prompting people to think of

They wouldn't be suitable as an only pair of glasses, but as sunglasses to sit alongside my clear varifocals I think they should be ideal. I'll post again with my thoughts when I've tried them.