Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Current affairs, Politics, News.
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

As per the title... What's the best way to borrow money for a month or two?

I have committed to buying a new bike off a guy desperate to sell it this month... No real problems my end other than a little light of the capital... But I have a 999 Experian Credit rating, so...

How to borrow the capital?

Well to be fair, if my current bike sells tomorrow, I'll be fine... Market is still a little slow though. I've got mine up for £10k, I've agreed £12.5k with this bloke... Much as I'd love him to, he's not gonna take mine in PX (this is all private)... I have a £9k offer for mine from a trader on the table, but that would leave me £1k light of where I would like to be. This guys bike would be £14k in a dealer, which combined with the fact the dealer would only give me £9k for mine, leaves a £5k deficit... So you can see for a £2.5k saving, it really is worth the small amount of hassle...

I've checked and I can get all manner of credit cards, but I don't need to make a "purchase" nor do I need to balance transfer to another card. What I would need is a "money transfer" card, and the cheapest I can get one of those for is 4% on the balance needed (£10k) so would cost me £400...

I can get a loan with TSB @ 6.1% over 2yrs or more... Which leaves me 22 months longer than I will need to pay it off (I envisage my bike will go within a month, two at the most), so if there's no early repayment penalties then no problem, but gets more expensive if there is...

Any other thoughts/ideas?

Payday loans are an absolute non-starter as they trash your credit rating... I have spoken to my Dad but he's said max he could lend me for a month would be £2k, he just doesn't have the spare cash he used to, its all tied up in assets these days.

First world problem for sure, but any advice welcome...
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16736
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10263 times
Been thanked: 6885 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by Yorick »

Short term overdraft?
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

Yorick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:40 pm Short term overdraft?
Max of £5k limit on an arranged overdraft on my bank account sadly... 39.49% APR means it would only cost £143.42 if I used it for a full 31 days though, which is reasonable...

I guess I have £5k in savings too I could use, but was hoping not to touch that, penalties associated with taking it out, even short term annoyingly.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16736
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10263 times
Been thanked: 6885 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by Yorick »

If I was nearby I'd lend you it myself. Bit difficult from over here.
User avatar
ChrisW
Posts: 2720
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:46 pm
Has thanked: 2903 times
Been thanked: 2052 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by ChrisW »

I've read it a couple of times but I might still be wrong - is this for a grand?
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

ChrisW wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:57 pm I've read it a couple of times but I might still be wrong - is this for a grand?
£10k
User avatar
ChrisW
Posts: 2720
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:46 pm
Has thanked: 2903 times
Been thanked: 2052 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by ChrisW »

mboy wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:58 pm
ChrisW wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:57 pm I've read it a couple of times but I might still be wrong - is this for a grand?
£10k
OK, apologies.
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

Yorick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:52 pm If I was nearby I'd lend you it myself. Bit difficult from over here.
Much appreciated, but yeah, would be more than a little difficult. Not least of all getting my current bike to you as collateral! 😂
User avatar
Pirahna
Posts: 1945
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:31 pm
Has thanked: 1814 times
Been thanked: 1164 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by Pirahna »

My advice is never borrow money for vehicles.
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16736
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10263 times
Been thanked: 6885 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by Yorick »

Pirahna wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:44 pm My advice is never borrow money for vehicles.
I did when I had to early 90s. But always paid cash since.
MyLittleStudPony
Posts: 1151
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:28 pm
Has thanked: 615 times
Been thanked: 405 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by MyLittleStudPony »

Pirahna wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:44 pm My advice is never borrow money for vehicles.
I'd go into the temple and overturn the money lenders' tables.
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

Pirahna wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:44 pm My advice is never borrow money for vehicles.
I don't think you understand the concept here...

I am borrowing short term (potentially, my bike might sell in the meantime meaning I don't need to), in order to save £thousands...

I don't need the money for more than a month most likely. My current bike is worth £10k, the one I'm getting £12.5k, I have the £2.5k difference no problem, I just haven't sold my bike yet... Though I will of course.

THAT is why I am looking to borrow the money... It will of course be fully paid off the moment I sell my current bike.
Yorick wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:46 pm I did when I had to early 90s. But always paid cash since.
I always pay cash. Even if I need to borrow, I still pay cash... PCP/HP finance always ends up incredibly expensive in the long run, far cheaper to get a personal loan if you need to finance it over a period of time. But I don't need to do that, I literally just need to sell my bike today, or borrow £10k for a few weeks...

The reality of the whole deal is compared to walking into a dealership and PXing my bike against the same bike in a dealership, which would cost me £5-6k to do, I am paying £2500 for the change... But I just need to find £10k cash for a few weeks in order to do so.

Anyway... Just remembered I actually have £3k coming in in a couple of weeks for an investment I've just cashed in, I have just extended my overdraft facility to £5k online and if needs be, I'll just lose a month or two interest on my £5k in savings too... So I should be all set now... :thumbup:
User avatar
Count Steer
Posts: 11804
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:59 pm
Has thanked: 6375 times
Been thanked: 4750 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by Count Steer »

Interesting how we have different 'styles' when it comes to finances (there's an article on this in today's 'The Conversation' newsletter that got me thinking about what I'd do).

If I was bothered about paying interest on a loan or losing interest on an investment/savings + the possibility I might have to take a hit on the price of the old bike, I'd be wondering why I need to spend the other £2.5k on such a marginal improvement. :D (+ the old bike is 'the devil you know'...I'd be pondering 'what if the new one is a lemon? I'll be £2.5k + + down and wanting my old bike back'. :lol:

Hey ho. We're all different eh?
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one
.
Voltaire
User avatar
mangocrazy
Posts: 6892
Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Has thanked: 2402 times
Been thanked: 3625 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mangocrazy »

It all hinges on the owner's concept of 'what the bike is worth', which is some notional figure based on a mixture of emotion and current selling prices. The cold hard truth is that a bike is only worth as much as someone else is willing to pay for it.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

Potter wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:34 am I’d sell my bike to the guy who is offering £9k right now, then you’re down by a grand but you’re still up because you’re getting the other bike cheap.

If you borrow money on the strength of what you think your bike is worth and you can’t sell it for that (and maybe the guy offering £9k decides to withdraw his offer or drop it to less), then you’re in a fix.

Bikes don’t seem to be selling well at the moment, you might be lucky but if your whole plan pivots on it selling quickly for the money you want, then you could come unstuck.
I'm not losing £1k cos spring hasn't properly sprung yet! :lol: Besides I asked for any potential short term money borrowing tactics, not terrible business advice! :crazy:
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:26 am It all hinges on the owner's concept of 'what the bike is worth', which is some notional figure based on a mixture of emotion and current selling prices. The cold hard truth is that a bike is only worth as much as someone else is willing to pay for it.
For sure, and mine is currently the cheapest bike of its kind on the market in the UK right now, by £500 too... Spoke to a couple of mates in the trade and they've said that "spring hasn't really sprung" basically... Not yet at least. Need a week of good weather, then bike sales will start booming.
Count Steer wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:31 am Interesting how we have different 'styles' when it comes to finances (there's an article on this in today's 'The Conversation' newsletter that got me thinking about what I'd do).

If I was bothered about paying interest on a loan or losing interest on an investment/savings + the possibility I might have to take a hit on the price of the old bike, I'd be wondering why I need to spend the other £2.5k on such a marginal improvement. :D (+ the old bike is 'the devil you know'...I'd be pondering 'what if the new one is a lemon? I'll be £2.5k + + down and wanting my old bike back'. :lol:

Hey ho. We're all different eh?
It's worth it to me, where I am financially right now... In a few months we will have committed to a new house, a bigger mortgage, and my monthly expendable income will shrink substantially as a result. Right now I can easily afford the £2.5k to upgrade to a nearly new bike with almost 4yrs warranty left (the new bike is a month old, registered on a 24 plate! Hardly likely to be a lemon). If it was much more than £2.5k to do so though, and I wasn't planning on keeping it for that 4yrs, then indeed I wouldn't bother...
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by irie »

Potter wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:36 am ...
I hope I’m wrong and we both get a sale, I guess time will tell, but if we’re talking about borrowing money then I don’t think it would be a good move to do it on the strength of a sales boom being just around the corner.
Agree with you, especially with a General Election 'just around the corner'.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
MyLittleStudPony
Posts: 1151
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:28 pm
Has thanked: 615 times
Been thanked: 405 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by MyLittleStudPony »

And this time the remoaners will get in and take all the money from the horrid old people and give it all to transes and immigrants. :thumbsup:
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by irie »

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:51 pm And this time the remoaners will get in and take all the money from the horrid old people and give it all to transes and immigrants. :thumbsup:
Screenshot_20240407_190436_Chrome.jpg
Screenshot_20240407_190436_Chrome.jpg (51.92 KiB) Viewed 841 times
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
porter_jamie
Posts: 445
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:41 am
Has thanked: 253 times
Been thanked: 143 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by porter_jamie »

Take a personal loan out over 5 years or whatever and pay it off in a couple of months
mboy
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:34 am
Location: Worcester
Has thanked: 527 times
Been thanked: 456 times

Re: Best way to borrow money for a month or two?

Post by mboy »

All sorted in the end...

Arranged my £5k overdraft facility, took £5k out of savings, got paid my salary, Dad lent me £1k and the GF £500 just in case.

Organised to go up and pick the bike up yesterday (13th) on Thursday (11th), and of course as soon as I did that, I had people interested in my bike... So I picked the new bike up yesterday, sold the new one today in the end (for the asking price)...

Didn't even touch the overdraft in the end! Dad and GF paid back already. Turned out nicely in the end! 👍🏻