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[mangocrazy]

We truly live in a fucked up world. The fact that it's only law in Scotchland at present is nothing to get comfortable about. Idiocy like this spreads quickly.

[Count Steer]

It's such a poorly thought through, badly drafted and bizarre piece of legislation you have to wonder what the SNP is thinking. Is it a squirrel!!? ie something to distract from all the other problems and failures eg drug use levels, the failing education and health systems etc etc. They'd rather have people focusing on this than anything to do with reality?

It's hardly a mega-vote winner anyway. I'd say that the SNP is toast come the next election. Labour and the Lib Dems must be delighted!

[irie]

It's such a poorly thought through, badly drafted and bizarre piece of legislation you have to wonder what the SNP is thinking. Is it a squirrel!!? ie something to distract from all the other problems and failures eg drug use levels, the failing education and health systems etc etc. They'd rather have people focusing on this than anything to do with reality?

It's hardly a mega-vote winner anyway. I'd say that the SNP is toast come the next election. Labour and the Lib Dems must be delighted!

Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.

[Bike Breaker]

Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.

In the interest of fairness and equality, they should also include misandry.

[Count Steer]

Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.

Well, they missed a trick too. They should have, at worst, abstained, pointed out how badly thought through it was and promised to rewrite it/tear it up. It's unworkable and totally open to abuse.

Mind you, our glorious leaders are doing something similarly with this business about 'undermining our democracy'.

[irie]

The beginnings of a police state where you can dob in anyone who offends you.

https://www.scotland.police.uk/contact- ... g-centres/

Third Party Reporting Centres

You can find your local Hate Crime Third Party Reporting Centre in the relevant document for your area below.

Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire and Moray
Ayrshire
Dundee, Angus, Perth and Kinross
Highlands and Islands
Fife
Forth Valley
Edinburgh
Lothian and Borders
Greater Glasgow
Lanarkshire
Argyll & Bute and West Dunbartonshire
Renfrewshire and Inverclyde
Dumfries and Galloway

to secretly tell someone in authority that someone else has done something wrong ...

[irie]

We truly live in a fucked up world. The fact that it's only law in Scotchland at present is nothing to get comfortable about. Idiocy like this spreads quickly.

Not to England or Wales because, as posted earlier, the right * was in 2020 upheld by the Court of Appeal (jurisdiction: England and Wales, but not Scotland).

I have a daughter living in Scotland so theoretically when visiting I could get nicked for saying something someone objected to but be able to get over the border to England and thus escape retribution.

Presiding over a Court of Appeal case concerning the misgendering of a trans woman on Twitter, Lord Justice Bean and Mr Justice Warby ruled that “free speech encompasses the right to offend, and indeed to abuse another”, adding: “Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having”.

[Yambo]

The Jockanese are the authors of their own misfortune.

Having said that, the other political parties must have been fuckin' abyssmal to allow the SNP to get elected.

[Mussels]

Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.

In the interest of fairness and equality, they should also include misandry.

I complained to the police about this as they invite complaints about one but not the other. To be fair to the PC who answered he or she looked up the meaning of misandry before ignoring the sexist behaviour of the police, just a shame they didn't look up the meaning of misogyny as they got it completely wrong.

[Felix]

The Jockanese are the authors of their own misfortune.

Having said that, the other political parties must have been fuckin' abyssmal to allow the SNP to get elected.

I blame Alex Salmond and his freedom fighters. After he pissed off Nicola with the cock Sturgeon just had to bang the same drum and they all came a calling. I dont think Humza Yousaf has the same support but we have to suffer this shit for a while yet.

[Felix]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-68721208

[cheb]

Labour would not repeal new hate crime laws introduced in Scotland despite concerns about how they are enacted.

Scottish Labour, which voted to amend the legislation before ultimately supporting it, would change the law to include misogyny.

In the interest of fairness and equality, they should also include misandry.

As long as they don't include misanthropy I reckon I'll be safe.

[cheb]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-68721208

And that sudden crime wave will encourage them further. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!!

[irie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-68721208

And that sudden crime wave will encourage them further. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!!

From the above link.

Community Safety Minister Siobhian Brown said people were making "fake and vexatious complaints".

Can't imagine why people are making "fake and vexatious complaints"

Or maybe I can.

[ZRX61]

More on Califailures Liberal/Democrat/Evironmentalist cascading clusterfuck
https://www.siskiyou.news/2024/04/03/kl ... -or-alive/

[Horse]

The beginnings of a police state where you can dob in anyone who offends you.

Give or take a few decades, this is an option in the uk ...

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/

Independent UK charity taking crime information anonymously.

Your report is sent to the relevant authority with the legal responsibility to investigate crimes, make arrests and charge people in order to bring them to justice. This could be your local police force or an agency such as the UK Border Agency or HM Revenue & Customs.

In over 35 years, our guarantee of anonymity has never been broken. You can fill in our easy online form, or speak to a member of our team on the phone.

Call us anonymously any time, day or night, any day of the year, on 0800 555 111.

[Yambo]

Give or take a few decades, this is an option in the uk ...

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/

Independent UK charity taking crime information anonymously.

I think the sort of crimes have changed. I may be wrong of course.

[Mussels]

The worry with vague wording is interpretation will change and people will be prosecuted for things never intended by law makers.
I think this is how the SNP want it and hope vague wording will give them deniability.

[Horse]

Give or take a few decades, this is an option in the uk ...

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/

Independent UK charity taking crime information anonymously.

I think the sort of crimes have changed. I may be wrong of course.

You're correct that the fuss is about new offences.

However, it's opportunity for 'dobbing in' if 'offended'. < That doesn't mean an offence has been committed. The actual crime is irrelevant.

If Crimestoppers wasn't effective, it might not still exist after 35 years. I'm sure, as well as reports of real or suspected crimes, they also get people settling scores, or who have been offended.

[ZRX61]

The beginnings of a police state where you can dob in anyone who offends you.

Give or take a few decades, this is an option in the uk ...

https://crimestoppers-uk.org/

Independent UK charity taking crime information anonymously.

Your report is sent to the relevant authority with the legal responsibility to investigate crimes, make arrests and charge people in order to bring them to justice. This could be your local police force or an agency such as the UK Border Agency or HM Revenue & Customs.

In over 35 years, our guarantee of anonymity has never been broken. You can fill in our easy online form, or speak to a member of our team on the phone.

Call us anonymously any time, day or night, any day of the year, on 0800 555 111.

We have a similar deal in the US, but the rigamarole, palaver & general ballache of trying to report something far exceeded my tolerance.